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PNG solution cutting against Rudd : Comments

By Graham Young, published 26/7/2013

Our panel is split on the PNG solution with Greens and other minor party voters opposed to it and only Labor voters strongly committed.

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Saltpetre,
You're another one who thinks all these invaders will be paying tax tp support your pension ?
I know a few bureaucrats who think that too. I say let them think, the outcome will be not at all favourable.
Posted by individual, Saturday, 27 July 2013 10:11:32 PM
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Totally agree with SPQR on the comment on melanesian society. I was also stunned to here the ABC spewing forward such racist views on behalf of PNG society.
Suddenly it was totally acceptable for a society to proclaim that these Asylum seekers should not come to their country because they would not be able to fit in there.
Also the UNHCR proclaiming they should go to Australia because from the UN's experience it was often difficult to mix melanesian and non-melanesian people together.
Other views clearly put forward on ABC TV were that the Asylum seekers would place untold stress on health services already stretched in PNG.
Yet if any of these issues are expressed by Australians there is the cry of racist from the left.
Posted by ozzie, Saturday, 27 July 2013 10:56:08 PM
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While there are a few diamonds among the illegal immigrants, the record is that years after getting residence, most are still on welfare.

There is no shortage of welfare bludgers in Aus already, why do we have to import them.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 28 July 2013 7:51:19 AM
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I just read that societies have a responsibility to look after their vulnerable. Well, how about taking those societies who shun their responsibility & send their supposedly vulnerable to us in boats , to task. Ah, I see, that'd be an illegal invasion. Remember the Howard -US bashers when the forces went into Iraq to stop that country from producing refugees ?
The morons of the left just can not open their eyes/minds to reality. We don't have to let Australia get overrun, all we need to do is help them sort out their problems in their countries. Ah damn, that'd be an illegal invasion again. Just can't win can we ?
Posted by individual, Sunday, 28 July 2013 9:37:35 AM
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What interesting times we live in.
And how things have changed over the decades.
Back in the 1970s and early 1980s up to 30,000
refugees a year came by boat to Australia.
There was little public fuss. There was
bi-partisan political support both from Malcolm
Fraser and Gough Whitlam.

These days we have bi-partisan support for punitive
measures to "stem the tide of boat people."
Hysteria decades later has well and truly gripped us.

You don't have to be an expert in political analysis
to see what is going on here. The government is framing
the asylum seeker issue in terms of organised crime.
People smugglers are the real villains here. "Absolute
scum of the earth." "Merchants of Death." And so on.
The Coalition is wanting to stop the deaths at sea
with their "tow back the leaky boats," mantra by the
military in stormy seas. Taking advice from a retired general
who wanted to bring tanks into Afghanistan. And rthe Coaliton
sends a message out to all people smugglers not to take
any notice of the government's PNG solution. It won't work.
Thus encouraging the boats to keep on coming.

All this is more than just rhetoric. It represents the
established public policy frameworks for asylum seeker
arrivals in Australia.

What we seem to forget that 30,000 to 40,000 people a year
should not be an issue. It never was in the past. We used
to think it was just a trickle of humkanity. So what's
happened now? Why can't the refugee dog-whistle politics
stop? Why can't both our government and the Coaliton
demonstrate moral leadership?

The following link is worth a read:

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/theres-a-paradox-at-the-heart-of-the-png-plan-20130725-2qn7h.html
Posted by Lexi, Sunday, 28 July 2013 11:04:35 AM
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So what's happened now?
Lexi,
Are you totally oblivious to what's going on around you ? Fist, those 70's refugees actually were refugees. Second, they were/are not religious mindless fanatics like the refugees of 2013.
In the 70's we could afford to take several tens of thousands in. In 2013 we can't afford them anymore. That's what's happened lexi !
Posted by individual, Sunday, 28 July 2013 11:10:41 AM
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