Thanks Poirot, but I thought he overegged the pudding. For example, whether PNG has high rates of sexual asault is irrelevant, as is the social security available in Australia, since these people were not in Australia before they got on a boat.

It seems to me that the basic problem was summed up by a young lad I heard interviewed on ABC in Indonesia yesterday, who said that this would not deter him from getting on a boat because he had nothing to lose. His family are mostly dead and his father did everything he could to get him to Indonesia so he could have a chance. This was a boy of 15 or 16.

That father and that boy are very, very resourceful people, yet they have been focussed on getting away from their own place and leaving their community. The best and the brightest! What hope is there for that part of the world if we do not strive to assist them to stay and fix the place?

I've banged on a lot about the pull factors that reduce the incentive to stay in a marriage that is less than ideal and it seems to me this is a similar situation. In the future these people and their children will carry anger and resentment and they will grow to hate the place they left, when their heart belongs there. the cycle of dysfunction will be perpetuated.

Anti,

More food for thought:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-07-24/harris-rimmer-the-top-10-mistakes-in-rudds-png-solution/4838586

Just add that less than 1% of UNHCR refugees in camps are resettled annually.

People wonder why desperate people take to boats during a refugee crisis like the one at present.

Poirot, people undertake desperate acts, to lead a better lifestyle. Just look at the Mexicans and what they do, to go and live in America. That is not about persecution, but about money. It is the same with people streaming into Europe from Africa etc.

Hi Yabby,

Good to see you back on the asylum scammers subject. And even better to see you giving Poirot a lesson in fisticuffs.

Cheers

Moiteeki,
Your judgemental and abusive posts merely underline my comments.

Btw I am liberally educated, loathe the conservatives as much as I despise the socialists.
How you link a hatred of the suppressed Palestinians to this debate says much about your attitudes.

You need to read more man, especially the literature of the past thay has led to the development of the greatest civilisation, ie Western liberal democracy, the world has ever seen.

And btw dump the old testament. It is very rigid and limiting.

Oh and Moiteeki you show a singular lack of understanding of our Australian egalitarian traditions. It in fact arose from a rejection of those European elitist traditions for which I hold some distain. But you seem to hate not just them but in your blinding hatred you seem to hate all those other European traditions especially those which in fact have been to the worlds great benefit.
As I said Moiteeki you need to read more.