Marilyn.

Look I am sick to death of the dissaffected idiots from all sides who are , perhaps unintentionally, creating snd fostering the anger, incivility, and ge neral nastiness in our community.
This disgraceful disregard of our egalitarian traditions is hurting our community. We need to return to our old ways. Where everyones opinion was allowed to be expressed and was treated with respect ... not abuse.
Where everyones opinion was valued as a contribution.
Where the best regarded contributions were valued because of they were seen as thoughtful and tended to bring together our community ... not dividing it.
Where all contributions were reasoned and factual ... not slogans nor deliberate lies or fudging.
Where our leaders actually put the well being and cohesion of our community by compromise rather than chest beating bravado and actually formulated policy that engendered s meeting of minds rsther than polarising.

I have a view of whay should occut. I have tried to express it on several occassions but have found the intransisnce I've encountered sbsolutely horrible and a blight on our community.
Your oitbusts don't fit well in my community Marilyn

Good article Mirko. I agree with it all, except…

I can’t see what is morally bankrupt about the new policy. To allow the continuation of people smuggling, deaths at sea and all the other negative factors would be morally bankrupt. Indeed Rudd’s stimulation of the renewed onshore asylum seeking movement in 2008 was highly morally suspect.

And I disagree with the idea of raising the refugee intake to 40 000, let alone progressively higher after that.

What we should be doing is reducing total immigration to net zero, and then declaring something like 75% of that to be refugees. So if the total immigration intake was 30 000, ~24 000 would be refugees. The total immigration intake and thus the refugee intake would vary as the emigration rate varied if it was to stay at net zero. A net zero immigration intake would be considerably higher than that for the first few years, slowly reducing down to a +/-stable level in the order of 30 000.

And we should be boosting and refining our international aid efforts, especially directed at refugee and sustainability issues.

Marilyn.

Look I am sick to death of the dissaffected idiots from all sides who are , perhaps unintentionally, creating snd fostering the anger, incivility, and ge neral nastiness in our community.
This disgraceful disregard of our egalitarian traditions is hurting our community. We need to return to our old ways. Where everyones opinion was allowed to be expressed and was treated with respect ... not abuse.
Where everyones opinion was valued as a contribution.
Where the best contributions were valued because of they were seen as bringing together our community ... not dividing it.
Where all contributions were reasoned and factual ... not slogans nor deliberate lies or fudging.
Where our leaders actually put the well being and cohesion of our community by compromise rather than chest beating bravado and actually formulated policy that engendered s meeting of minds rsther than polarising.

I have a view of whay should occut. I have tried to express it on several occassions but have found the intransisnce I've encountered sbsolutely horrible and a blight on our community.
Your oitbusts don't fit well in my community Marilyn

Bob Smythe....Sensible comment...

I agree with all of your article with exception of raising the refugee quota and applying the " morally bankrupt " tag to the outsourcing policy.
Raising the quota proposal appears to be nothing more than a guilt trip. Is this so that Australia may "look good" internationally , by throwing into the mix a kind of consolation prize to refugees? What is the rationale?
The refugee intake ( by both sea and air) must take into account the growing concern in Australia for a sustainable population policy, on the back of substantial data documenting the environmental constraints to endless population growth.
Rudd's solution to this peaceful invasion is quite astute. Finally he has responded to the substantial percentage of Australians who view the present influx of irregular arrivals with considerable suspicion as to their bona fides

Bob Smythe, you had better be careful if you go back to PNG. You don't appear to understand a large slice of the culture. You see someone owns every one of those fruit trees, even if they are deep in the jungle. You won't find even one, without a path used to harvest the produce, leading to it. Touch them at your peril.

Of course the same would apply to any boat people settled there, & from my observation, a great deal of conflict is likely to arise because of their attitude. If I was a PNG citizen I would already be rioting in the street. There is not one single advantage to the majority of the countries normal citizens with this policy, just strife.

I can't go along with any of Mirko's idea of increasing refugee numbers, particularly from the lowest rank of people. It is time to realize we should never bring to Oz for any reason, anyone who can not integrate into the population within a few years.

We already have no go areas, due to our kindly refugee policies of the past, & the attitudes of those refugees.

We already have suburbs that are ungovernable or police-able, due to language barriers, & a ghetto mentality of the residents.

How much worse, & more expensive & damaging can we allow this kindness to get, before it turns to war in the streets.

We are still a semi-civilized ape, regardless what the lefty do gooders would like to think of themselves. Too much push & shove will bring this fact all too well to the fore.