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Now we are bargaining with the climate gods : Comments

By Lyn Bender, published 16/7/2013

Kubler-Ross identified five stages in dealing with terminal illness - denial, anger, bargaining, despair and acceptance.

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Sorry, forgot link in last post to Bureau of Meteorology - see below

http://www.bom.gov.au/announcements/media_releases/climate/change/20130103.shtml
Posted by Johnj, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 2:55:19 PM
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Funny isn't it Johnj, That's not what the satellites & weather balloons say.

I wonder why it is that the government funded man produced records show something other than the machines.
Posted by Hasbeen, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 3:57:20 PM
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Johnj
look, go back and look at what you've written and then at your links. Just how convincing do you think it is that 2012 was the ninth warmest year on record? In fact, it confirms what the global warming crowd has only recently grudgingly admitted, that temperatures have been bumping along a plateau for well over a decade now despite emissions pouring into the atmosphere.

The earth is warm, climatically speaking, at the moment - the problem is that the climate models insist that temperatures should be increasing even further and they's stopped dead. Why? And while you're at it take another look at the figures you cite. The BoM stuff says the year was 0.11 degrees above average.. that's not a devastating increase is it? Wasn't the previous year well below average?
Posted by Curmudgeon, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 5:02:50 PM
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Curmudgeon, when you climb to the top of a mountain and look around, most of the points around you will be high points. That doesn't mean you're still going up -- in fact in this case it means the only way is down.

If your gurus in the climate alarmist movement could honestly say that the globe is getting hotter then they would. The fact that they have to resort to weasel words like 'nine of the last ten years were...' indicates that they've realised they're not going to get away with outright lies any more -- except to the thoroughly brainwashed, of course.
Posted by Jon J, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 5:25:30 PM
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Fascism is of course applied boots-in-faces patriarchal politics. It completely objectifies everything and thus reduces everyone and everything to mere thingness to be ruthlessly exploited, and terminated if it/they get in the way of its expansionist imperative.

http://www.dartmouth.edu/~spanmod/mural/panel14.html

Fascists do not like uppity women (especially feminists) except as stress-releasing wham-bam pleasurizing units, and of course breeders (to keep the race "pure").Women of course can not be priests in the "catholic" church - but why would they even want to?

Fascists do not like tree-hugging environmentalists, those that wish to protect and conserve the natural world, or those whose protest against the industrial-scale-slaughter-machine meat industry.

Fascists have no time for any kind of softness including soft religion. And certainly none for the applied politics of cooperation, tolerance and peace. Such politics being intrinsic in Reality Itself, and thus in the heart of every human being.

So who are the real fascists, or who has the real power?

Applied fascist politics 101:
http://www.logosjournal.com/hammer_kellner
The systematic politics of cruelty and massive plunder described in the above essay was/is further described in The Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klein.

Why not Google:
Koch Brothers and Fascism (with ALEC thrown in)
A related essay Rise Up or Die by Chris Hedges the truth-telling author of American Fascists
An interesting essay in the Guardian titled The Pentagon Braces For Public Dissent Over Climate and Energy Shock.
Posted by Daffy Duck, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 5:51:06 PM
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Daffy
Your post does not make a lot of sense. Fascists don't like environmentalists. But then neither they nor communists like anyone very much, so I don't think that means anything, and communist regimes really mistreated the environment. What was the name of the inland sea the Soviets managed to dry up entirely with idiotic schemes for planting cotton?

Maybe you want to rethink what you were trying to say and have another go.
Posted by Curmudgeon, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 6:03:39 PM
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