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Now we are bargaining with the climate gods : Comments

By Lyn Bender, published 16/7/2013

Kubler-Ross identified five stages in dealing with terminal illness - denial, anger, bargaining, despair and acceptance.

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"Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced."

Okay, when are you going to face the fact that there has now been no significant global warming for eighteen years, according to all the officially-recognised figures?

"For RSS the warming is not statistically significant for over 23 years.
For RSS: +0.122 +/-0.131 C/decade at the two sigma level from 1990
For UAH the warming is not statistically significant for over 19 years.
For UAH: 0.139 +/- 0.165 C/decade at the two sigma level from 1994
For Hadcrut3 the warming is not statistically significant for over 19 years.
For Hadcrut3: 0.091 +/- 0.110 C/decade at the two sigma level from 1994
For Hadcrut4 the warming is not statistically significant for over 18 years.
For Hadcrut4: 0.093 +/- 0.107 C/decade at the two sigma level from 1995
For GISS the warming is not statistically significant for over 18 years.
For GISS: 0.105 +/- 0.110 C/decade at the two sigma level from 1995
For NOAA the warming is not statistically significant for over 18 years.
For NOAA: 0.086 +/- 0.103 C/decade at the two sigma level from 1995"

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/07/14/how-good-are-met-office-predictions-now-includes-at-least-may-data

When you can face that truth you'll be in a position to discuss what to do about people who can't.
Posted by Jon J, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 7:43:17 AM
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For 60 years the USA has been messing around with using weather as a weapon. They did so in Vietnam. Geo-engineering is real as witnessed by extensive use of chemicals {chemtrails} in conjunction with their HAARP program.
Posted by Arjay, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 8:52:23 AM
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Kubler-Ross might has been spot on with her analysis of the different stages of dying, Lyn, and you should be a congratulated on using this as a metaphor for your own apocalyptic belief in man made global warming. But too many of us are also conversant with the story about Chicken Little, and that could also be used a metaphor about people who think like you do.
Posted by LEGO, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 8:59:27 AM
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As is so oftn the case Belly, your psusedo poetic ramblings leave me wondering if you might be a few sandwiches short of picnic.
Posted by sbr108, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 9:09:22 AM
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As is so oftn the case Belly, your psusedo poetic ramblings leave me wondering if you might be a few sandwiches short of a picnic.
Posted by sbr108, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 9:10:22 AM
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This article rambles, but instead of the six stages of grief or whatever it was, why don't we look at the scare story spin cycle..

1 - proposal. Something dreadful is going to happen.
2 - governments get sufficiently alarmed about the stories to set up institutes or give grants to unis to study the problem. Suddenly there is a paid group whose job it is to collect "facts" about the scare story while ignoring anything contrary. Its their jobs after all.
3 - general acceptance. There is now a large number of academics and consults of all kinds whose job is to whip up fear on this issue.
4 - The actual physical world does not comply with the story, despite efforts to "reinterpret" the figures. Those involved start drifting away to other scare stories.
5 - We stop hearing about the scare story. Suddenly very few remember this story, or recall supporting it at the time.

We are now around phase 4.
Posted by Curmudgeon, Tuesday, 16 July 2013 10:31:20 AM
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