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The Goodes and Eddies of unconscious racism : Comments
By Michel Poelman, published 3/6/2013Goodes' reaction highlights that human deficiencies, left to their own devices, create harms that cut deep.
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Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 5:11:48 PM
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http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/txt/s3759900.htm#transcript
Lexi, What have the people in this link actually ever contributed to our society apart from hanging off the apron that funds academia with our hard-earned Dollars. Surely you can rustle up better quality references. Posted by individual, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 7:42:48 PM
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Lexi my sweet, I'm afraid you are now doing it. Of course it is not only you, but identifying someone as "the Indigenous MP, Linda Burney" is racist in it self. The woman concerned, if she so identifies herself is also indulging in racism.
It does not matter if it is direct, or reverse racism, it is still the same thing. Either the lady concerned expects special treatment for her self, her opinion, or her race, or there is no reason to mention her heritage. Until aboriginals stop expecting special treatment & identifying as aboriginal to gain special treatment, racism will continue. I personally can not imagine any thing more racist than one group, even if they were the first immigrants to Oz, wanting special mention in our constitution. Until this type of thing stops, & all are just Australian, expect racism to flourish. People can not expect to use it to their advantage, & then complain when it is used against them Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 8:36:17 PM
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'Reverse racism' Hasbeen? No such thing, though some seem to think racism exhibited by minority groups is somehow not racism. Of course that is not true!
Truth, however, is frequently a victim when "Racism" gets brought into the conversation. "Indigenous sportmen and women often suffer racial abuse on and off the field." Yes of course! Terrible what goes on! It must be stamped out. There should be an inquiry .... "Indigenous footballers have a higher incidence of behaviours bringing them into conflict with the law and/or their clubs" You can't say that - it's racist! That's vilification! You're singling out aboriginals and saying they're trouble makers ... "It's a national shame so many Aboriginal men are incarcerated in Australia." That's awful! Why is that happening to our indigenous people? There should be better ways to deal ... "More aboriginal men, compared to other racial groups are in jail for serious crimes like murder, manslaughter and rape." It's not right to say that - it's racism. It's wrong to identify prisoners on basis of race. It might even be an offence ... "Race" can only be used 'positively' or to defend. If a fact is expressed which reflects negatively on a racial (or increasingly, a cultural/religious group) you may be sure the cries of racism will drown the discussion. Police investigating ethnic gang related crime have expressed concerns about being accused of racism in the course of their work. True racism must be stamped on when it happens - no matter who is delivering the abuse. Bogus racism - AFL player hissy fits over a generic insult, shutting down discussion or legitimate questions by playing the race card like an indigenous politician did recently - REASONABLE PEOPLE ARE OVER IT. Posted by divine_msn, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 10:42:39 PM
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'Sorry to impose an alternative view...you folks go right on ahead mentoring children to yell abuse at the footy. '
Actually Poirot maybe with such a scientific brain you claim to have you might have the text books changed so that the idiotic notion of some people being more evolved than others might not become a point of offense. But then again that's what you believe Poirot no matter how nicely you put it. Posted by runner, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 11:35:21 PM
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runner,
I know you believe we were all plopped onto the earth, Mr Bean style, as we are and that evolution is a fiction....(I wonder how many of your cohorts on this thread support you in that proposition?) And what do you reckon, runner? "....notion of some people being more evolved than others...." That's a bit thick. On the subject of human evolution, we're "all of us" homo sapiens. "But then again that's what you believe Poirot no matter how nicely you put it." Now, now, runner perhaps you might stop your naughty habit of ascribing views to people based on your own comprehensively warped view of humanity. I've said nothing of the sort - except that if people bring up kids to hoot abuse from the sidelines, then they shouldn't be surprised and act so outraged when things turn pear-shaped. Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 6 June 2013 12:17:01 AM
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As was pointed out to you elsewhere and you choose to forget, Linda Burney did not agree at all that the 13 yr old minor represented the face of racism. Then Ms Burney MP, went on with a long and rambling listing of past indigenous wrongs, some of which could be highly contentious.
It was the usual full bucket of alleged wrongs tipped out (so Q&A that speakers and questioners must practice in advance), but nothing to do with the girl. The politician was talking around the subject, as politicians do. It might explain to some extent why the professional footballer was predisposed to think a certain way rather than exercising choice to interpret the single word (which applies?), but that is all. However you give the impression that this politician agreed with or bolstered the allegation against the girl. That is wrong.
What about you examine what Linda Burley said that actually relates specifically to the girl minor? What actual evidence do you have? Enthusiasm for the subject and rhetoric do not substitute for facts. Otherwise the wrongs of humans since year dot could serve to convict anyone, including you.