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The Goodes and Eddies of unconscious racism : Comments

By Michel Poelman, published 3/6/2013

Goodes' reaction highlights that human deficiencies, left to their own devices, create harms that cut deep.

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Poirot, runner is right to point out the contradictory support/denial of evolution on "your side".

Evolution is great when it gets God out of schools.
But denied in politics, where all people are "equal" and social tiers and active self-interest are "unfair".

We are not all the same genetically.
There has been sufficient generations since leaving Africa (supposedly, see multiregional-origin theory) to see naked-eye morphological changes.
Do you think differing surface features (eyes, hair, skin) are the *only* things that have "evolved" in the last 60,000+ years?

There is evidence that post-African humans mated with Neanderthals, which led to our bigger brain.
If one were truly "scientific" you'd have to classify us Sapien-Neanderthal cross-breeds as a new species, or at least subspecies.
But that would be politically unacceptable!

With evolution, like everything else, Jekyll-Hyde Progressives want to have their cake and eat it too.
Posted by Shockadelic, Thursday, 6 June 2013 1:37:20 AM
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My view is simple. Goodes is a large man, in the prime of his life, valued for his talent and skills, well paid, seen as a role model by young men. By any measure he is able to hold his head up with pride in himself and his success and I'm sure there would be few men willing to tell him they disagreed to his face. His race is incidental in all this, the same observations would apply regardless of his ethnicity.

"Goodes holds an elite place in AFL/VFL history as a dual Brownlow Medallist, dual premiership player, four-time All-Australian, member of the Indigenous Team of the Century, and has represented Australia in the International Rules Series." - from Wikipedia

He has played well over 300 games so he has presumably been exposed to all sorts of denigrations by fans of the other side hoping to put such a talented player off his game so as to give their own side some advantage and to those of his own side doing the same to opposing players, yet he claimed to have been "hurt" by a comment from a young barracker in the audience. In fact, he was so hurt that he was put off his game enough to stop and point her out to security to be removed for offensive behaviour. A 13 year old child. Because she called him a name that he felt was disrespectful of his racial origin.

His cause was taken up with enthusiasm by a few in the media and the girl was roundly condemned as representing the worst of Australia for her comment. She wrote a very nice letter of apology which was reproduced triumphantly on the front page of media websites and then Eddie McGuire made his contribution and she became yesterday's news to the media.
Posted by Antiseptic, Thursday, 6 June 2013 3:00:34 AM
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The problem is that the protection of children from harm, including abuse, is a core societal role no matter which side of politics you belong to.

Or, it used to be. Apparently it's no longer as important as saving a high-profile aboriginal man from being "hurt" by something the child said.

I wonder how they would have coped if the child had turned out to have Aboriginal ancestry?
Posted by Antiseptic, Thursday, 6 June 2013 5:11:17 AM
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Shocka,

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I didn't comment on evolution until responding to runner's last post.

I didn't state anywhere on this thread that "evolution is on my side".

Runner, was merely trying to score a few points because he has no truck with evolution - while most people do.

As usual, he has no real argument, and just wishes to push his leaky barrow.

...........

Anti,

You're right about our responsibility to children.

Perhaps then, we shouldn't put on disgusting displays of abuse for them when they're with us watching the grown-ups play.

Hurling abuse at contestants isn't tolerated in school sports or in junior sports in general.

We're sending out two conflicting messages obviously
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 6 June 2013 9:24:33 AM
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Yes indeed, well said Antiseptic.
Posted by SPQR, Thursday, 6 June 2013 9:34:16 AM
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Shocka,

Just one more thing on evolution.

If you're trying to make out some of us are more evolved than others, species-wise, can you explain why every language is sophisticated?

Why, some languages spoken by people you would probably classify as culturally backward have more a sophisticated language construct than we do.

We may or may not have cross-bred with Neanderthals, the jury is out on that one, although it seems likely to me...but all that is beside the point.

As I said above, we're all Homo Sapiens.
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 6 June 2013 9:38:50 AM
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