The National Forum   Donate   Your Account   On Line Opinion   Forum   Blogs   Polling   About   
The Forum - On Line Opinion's article discussion area



Syndicate
RSS/XML


RSS 2.0

Main Articles General

Sign In      Register

The Forum > Article Comments > The Goodes and Eddies of unconscious racism > Comments

The Goodes and Eddies of unconscious racism : Comments

By Michel Poelman, published 3/6/2013

Goodes' reaction highlights that human deficiencies, left to their own devices, create harms that cut deep.

  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. 4
  6. Page 5
  7. 6
  8. 7
  9. 8
  10. ...
  11. 17
  12. 18
  13. 19
  14. All
From Thinking of Answers by A. C. Grayling:

To insult or discriminate – even if you do it indirectly – with respect to the race, sex, sexuality, age, and disability, if any, of other people is unacceptable. These are things over which people have no choice or control. In respect of what people can choose such as their political or religious commitments, how they dress, how they entertain themselves, it is open season: people must bear the consequences of their choices, including the disagreement, amusement, and even contempt, of others. ‘Feeling offended’ is no defence against attack on your political or religious views by those who do not share them, and it is indeed a vital feature of a healthy society that over matters of choice there should be a vigorous debate, of which satire and humour are a welcome and often revealing part.
Posted by david f, Monday, 3 June 2013 11:37:48 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Pretty much david f - which is why a large man with a hairy face (his choice of grooming) might well attract the taunt of "Ape".
Posted by divine_msn, Monday, 3 June 2013 11:53:01 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
divine_msn

"...big hairy faced hypersensitive sportsman..."

No wonder the younger generation are taking the can for the errant guidance of their mentors.

Goodes isn't responsible for MCG or AFL protocols in dealing with minors.

Nor is he responsible for media coverage.

In fact, he's one of the few in this episode who has acted with decorum.

What would you know about the indigenous experience of playing sport in Australia?

How do you know that this girl's comment wasn't the straw that broke the camel's back, as far as Goodes' experience goes?

The people who owe this girl an apology are the ones who mentored her to hurl abuse in the first place - and judging from your attitude, divine_msn, it ain't going to stop anytime soon.
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 3 June 2013 11:58:07 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Am I the only person who thinks that Adam Goodes is the ugliest man alive? The reason he was called an ape may have more to do with his face than his race.
Posted by benk, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 6:21:11 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Michel Poelman “Today those of white European descent are hoping that the Chinese will not make the same mistake.”

I doubt their per capita income is anything to brag about.

“[Eddy McGuire] could have made it easier on himself and made a much stronger point if he acknowledged that he was indeed a racist.”

Or indeed an absurdist post-modernist.

“After all, this fear of strangers has helped our tribes to survive throughout the eons.”

And now “enlightenment/education” is helping our tribes vanish within a few generations.

How do you hope to eradicate “racism” in sport when officials are promoting it? (Indigenous Sport Program, the Deadlys, South Australian Aboriginal Sports Training Academy, NAIDOC Awards, Indigenous Sports Queensland, National Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Sports Awards, etc).

Team sports are sublimated warfare.
The first rule of war is to unsettle the minds of the enemy using whatever tactic will get under their skin.
Posted by Shockadelic, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 6:59:13 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Moral puritans in centuries past defined the attitudes causing all human misery as "The Seven Deadly Sins." Contemporary moral puritans have divested themselves of these values and now consider "Racism" as the Only Deadly Sin.

The word "Racism" was coined to denote the attitude that the three generally recognised races of humankind could be categorised by their level of development within evolution.

But this meaning has now spread to encompass an ever growing list of attitudes. Depending upon the source, it can now mean the attribution of negative stereotypes to any race, ethnicity, or religion. Please note. It is OK to attribute POSITIVE stereotypes, you can still say that the Chinese are hardworking, or the Italians have a flair for design, but it is PC verboten to say that the Chinese are racists or that the Italians are prone to corruption.

The idea that any group of people is beyond criticism is the sort of thing the mad mullahs of Islam would come up with, and I personally think that it is intellectually unsupportable. And if it is racist to attack Jews and Muslims on the basis of their belief systems, then it must also be racist to attack Nazis over their belief system.

It is illegal to say anything racist in this country, even if it is the truth. Why is it illegal to tell the truth? Why is it illegal to point out that the different races have different physical and mental characteristics which evolution has bestowed upon them, which give them advantages in certain environments?

The contradiction is, that everyone knows that black skin has superior UV ray deflecting qualities to non pigmented skin, but it is so self evident that nobody even realises that it is a racist position.

The usual anti racist position is to blame the dysfunctions of the black race on the "oppressions" caused by the white race. That is the same racist argument that Hitler used to blame the Jews for the misfortunes of the German people. But no committed anti racist is smart enough to recognise that.
Posted by LEGO, Tuesday, 4 June 2013 7:06:57 AM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. 3
  5. 4
  6. Page 5
  7. 6
  8. 7
  9. 8
  10. ...
  11. 17
  12. 18
  13. 19
  14. All

About Us :: Search :: Discuss :: Feedback :: Legals :: Privacy