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Palestine: beware the snake oil salesman : Comments

By David Singer, published 29/5/2013

Larudee's claim that 'Palestine' belonged to the 'Palestinians', that it is their land, that they were denied the right to sovereignty and self determination and have the right to return there is not borne out by the historical record.

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Ich bin ein Muscovite.

We are All Russians Now

For the Russians, the Jews are guilty of having killed the emissaries of God when they murdered the Romanov family, since the family has now been beatified. “Just as they once crucified Jesus,” said a participant in the memorial services. “Nicholas and Alexandra were our father and mother. They were like Russia’s parents,” said one of the bystanders among the faithful. Another participant in the memorial mass expressed enthusiasm for the return of the Tzarism: “The Tzar is God’s chosen on Earth — we musthave a Tzar!” (AFP 17 July 2008.)

Russian schools now teach that it was Jews who murdered the Tzar’s family. This is probably the reason why even Wikipedia has begun reporting that the murderers were Jews, a fact that could not be mentioned in former times. “On 4 July 1918, the Cheka took over guarding the Romanovs in Yekaterinburg. They were accompanied by Jakov Yurovski… Yurovski was a Jew.” (Wikipedia). Two additional Jewish assassins who joined the Yurovski murderers were Alexander Belobarodov and Filip Goloschtschokin.

Today the Russians weep when they think of that horrible crime.

“Only Jews would have been capable of such a bloodthirsty crime,” stated a participant in the memorial mass in front of the Church of the Blood that was held in Yekaterinburg in 2008.

[LD: It must never be forgotten that the Jews, according to Russian author Solzhenitsyn, killed at least 66 million Russian Christians between 1917 and 1953 during Stalin’s reign of terror.

Two Hundred Years Together is a monumental work of historical scholarship by Soviet dissident and 1970 Nobel literature laureate, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

The same Jews now rule the Western world, both in America and Europe, from their seat in Israel. So we need to be very careful lest they start getting genocidal ideas again.

Next time it could be us. — LD]
Posted by MEH, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 12:45:37 PM
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Snake oil salesman - what an apt title for the Zionist shill who trots out this endless series of lame justifications for the racist "Jewish state" holding Palestinian land acquired by armed ethnic cleansing through an orgy of pogroms which continue to this day.

The snake oil is, at base, the blasphemous claim that God promised Palestine to those who invaded the territory three thousand years ago, butchering resident tribe after resident tribe and stealing their land, and the historically phoney claim that today's Jews are their descendants.

There can be no justification for a Jewish, Arab or any other state based on genetics (that includes the PLO definition) or on religious superstition as demanded by Moslem jihadists.

Nor can the meddling of foreigners through various "declarations", "treaties" etc. among themselves define the rightful exercise of sovereignty of those with a birthright in Palestine. That means place of birth or, for exiles, direct, individually identifiable, descendants in the same way as "patrials" recognised for acceptance for abode in Britain.

Only sovereignty by birthright can underpin lasting peace and justice in Palestine or anywhere else. No ethnic group is "special" or "chosen by God". That includes Jews.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 1:00:38 PM
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The stuff cited by MEH is the racist antisemitism peddled by Hitler's crew including the likes of Solzhenitsyn who was an admirer of the Boer fascist regime in South Africa and who declared the Nazi invasion of his country to be "a purifying storm".

The immediate giveaway for an antisemite is use of the term "the Jews" as committing this or that crime. Israel is not "the Jews". The Zionists are not "the Jews". The Bolsheviks were not "the Jews". "The Jews" didn't crucify Christ (the Roman state did to appease quislings).

MEH's Nazi diatribe examines the ethnicity of historical figures to make a phoney case against Jews as a whole. Indeed Nazis like MEH's favoured Russians were and are in synch with the Zionist ideology in treating people with Jewish genes as a unitary whole.

These Nazi revisionists are hoping the world has forgotten the unparalleled vileness of the Nazi and Jap regimes who were the last real enemies against whom Australians have justifiably gone to war.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 2:33:01 PM
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In 1967, when the leaders of Arab states who controlled overwhelming military force, confidently predicted how easy it was going to be to exterminate Israel, all of the little Emperor Julianne's, Marilyn Shepard's, Rhys Jones's and Wobbles clones of the day, had no problem figuring out who was the oppressor, and who was the victim.

The Muslims did not even bother to justify their boasts about exterminating the Israelis in terms of helping their poor Palestinian brothers. As far as they were concerned (and if you ever bother to read Hamas and Hezbollah literature today) it was all about how it was blasphemous for the conquered Jews to re establish their authority in a land conquered by Islam.

Even university students could figure out that the Arab Muslims were the world's experts at genocide and ethnic cleansing, it was even mandated by Allah in the Koran. And for these expert ethnic cleansers to cry about one of their victims returning the complement, was like a car thief getting upset over someone stealing his car.

After Israel won the 6 day war, you just weren't a hip social crusader unless you had gone Israel and worked on a kibbutz.

But the Israelis did something wrong. Contrary to expectations, they were not exterminated. They fought and they triumphed. They quite rightfully took some more land from their enemies, who were going to take all of their land, and made themselves more defensible.

Now, if there is one thing the Marilyn Sheppard's of this world hate, it is a winner. They can only see the world in terms of oppressors and victims, and if you win too much, especially with US help, then you lose your victim status and become an oppressor.

So it is very amusing to see the Emperor Julian's of these times strutting around and loudly proclaiming, in terms of high moral indignation, the immorality of the Israelis defending themselves from Muslim extermination.
Posted by LEGO, Thursday, 30 May 2013 5:41:49 PM
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(Hadith 4366) "I will expel the Jews and the Christians from the land (Arabia) and will not leave any but Muslims."

O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites! Be harsh with them.... (9:73)

O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you.... (9:123)

Ye will be called against a folk of mighty prowess to fight them until they surrender.... (48:16)[7]

Koran 8:12

Remember Thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the believers, I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them."

, "The Biography of the Apostle", part 4, Ibn Hisham says (page 134):

"Muhammad sent Khalid Ibn al-Walid to the tribe of the children of Haritha and told him: 'Call them to accept Islam before you fight with them. If they respond, accept that from them, but if they refuse, fight them.' Khalid told them: 'Accept Islam and spare your life.' They entered Islam by force. He brought them to Muhammad. Muhammad said to them: 'Had you not accepted Islam I would have cast your heads under your feet"

And the trendies can't figure out that Islam is dangerous.
Posted by LEGO, Thursday, 30 May 2013 8:49:24 PM
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