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Does Woolwich killing lead to nihilism? : Comments

By Bill Calcutt, published 27/5/2013

If a primary goal of the attack was to generate intense global coverage, galvanise public horror and catalyse a state reaction, then it appears to have been effective.

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Lego

you are dealing with a man (csteele) who deliberatley misrepresents the Christian faith while being an Islamic apologist. Unfortunately his type of dishonesty is mirrored by many of our pollies who actually hate the righteousness of Christ because it exposes their own unrighteousness. Secularism is a immoral cult that promotes death and disposes of the unborn like trash.

Thankyou for your informed reason in your posts here.
Posted by runner, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 11:55:31 AM
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Lego
There are several different versions of the bible. The Catholic version uses the word Kill in the commandments and the Protestant version uses the word Murder.
The old testament can be used to justify just about anything if you search for a suitable quote, the new testament is all about love and forgiveness.
I think that the Koran can be used to justify anything but it also contains much about Peace and forgiveness.
A lot of Peace advocates have been killed, Jesus Christ, Gandhi, Martin Luther King and even John Lennon, it seems live a dangerous belief to have.
The signs are that unless humans learn to live at Peace with each other and with the rest of planet Earth then we will not live.
Posted by askari, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 1:23:36 PM
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Hi, Mr Askari

If the Catholic Bible does indeed say "Thou Shalt Not Kill" , then the official the teachings of the Catholic church are even more pacifist than the prots. But unless the Pope has changed things since I studied history, Catholics are forbidden to read the Bible anyway. The Bible must be "interpreted" for them by their priests. The right of ordinary people to bypass the clergy and read the word of God directly from the Bible, was the primary reason for the Reformation.

That Reformation allowed literate people to read the pacifist commands of their prophet for the first time. This began the process of turning Christianity from a violent religion which was every bit as bad as Islam is today, to a religion where violence is frowned upon unless very good reasons exist justifying it.

This is completely different to Islam, where the violence towards non Muslims is commanded by Allah in the Koran, which Muslims believe is the literal word of God. And Islam has always encouraged its followers to be literate and read that direct message of hate and violence from Allah directly.

Muslims follow the teachings of the prophet Muhammad, and Christians follow the teachings of their prophet Jesus Christ. And there is nothing in Jesus Christs teachings to compare with Muhammads

We have created the unbelievers out of base matters.

Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends.

Do not be the first to greet a Jew or a Christian, and if you meet one of them in the street, then push him to the narrowest part of the way.” ....

“O you who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are close to you, and let them find harshness in you,

Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them,

Sura (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Posted by LEGO, Wednesday, 29 May 2013 7:22:35 AM
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