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Does Woolwich killing lead to nihilism? : Comments

By Bill Calcutt, published 27/5/2013

If a primary goal of the attack was to generate intense global coverage, galvanise public horror and catalyse a state reaction, then it appears to have been effective.

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Marilyn,
I reject your use of the word "our terrorism", Western Governments have long ceased to reflect the values of their constituents, there is no "we", there's only people like us and people like them. Nationalism is the answer to all the world's problems, Muslims need to live in their own free, neutral and independant homelands, Europeans in theirs, Asians in theirs and so on, abolish the U.N,NATO,ASEAN,G20 the E.U and all international treaties and all of this goes away.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Monday, 27 May 2013 4:53:12 PM
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Wars are started by interfering in others peoples business, accordingly be prepared that there will be consequences, for that action.
Posted by Kipp, Monday, 27 May 2013 5:09:47 PM
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In the old testament of the bible there are numerous passages which encourage violence and killing, however, one of the ten commandments states that thou shalt not kill. I have often wondered how Christian soldiers live with this and why the leaders of all the Christian churches are not in the front ranks of anti war protest marches.
Does this mean that all who attend Christian churches endorse killing?
Posted by askari, Monday, 27 May 2013 5:09:58 PM
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You have it all wrong, Mr Askari.

The 10 Commandments do not say "Thou shalt not kill", they say "Thou Shalt not Murder." This concept, observed by the Christian, Jewish and Muslim faiths, is taken to mean that God is saying that it permissible to kill with the sanction of legal authority, but not permissible to kill for personnel reasons.

The reason why Christians today are nowhere near as violent as Muslims, is because the two faiths are fundamentally different in origin. One was started by a Jewish hippie who advocated, peace, love, tolerance, and forgiveness, while the other was started by a genocidal warlord who concocted a religion that would make his soldiers fearless in battle, as well as justify his conquests.

That is why Christians did not go around rioting or promising to murder the artists and producers who created 'Piss Christ" and "The Life of Brian", but Salmon Rushdie is still on the run, and the editor of that Danish newspaper who published those Mohammad cartoons is in hiding.

In addition, if a Christian wishes to become a Muslim, there is no legal or religious law that prevents them for doing so. But in Islam, Sharia Law as practiced by the four major faiths of Islam specifies that apostates must be killed. I don't know about you, But I am personally incredulous that the Australian government would allow such a murderous and dangerous "religion" into an advanced society.

At the very least, out government should have demanded that this Muslim law be renounced by all Muslim branches before it could be tolerated to set up shop in Australia, and allowed to preach its misogyny and hatred of infidels here.
Posted by LEGO, Monday, 27 May 2013 5:54:07 PM
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Dear Askari,

Please excuse LEGO for he knoweth not what he says.

Jesus said quite explicitly "I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword" (Gospel of Matthew 10:34)

And the leader of one of the great Christian nations of the last century wrote in his book Mein Kampf “by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.”

Of course he did not always feel this way writing in Mein Kampf;

“Not until my fourteenth or fifteenth year did I begin to come across the word 'Jew,' with any frequency, partly in connection with political discussions .... For the Jew was still characterized for me by nothing but his religion, and therefore, on grounds of human tolerance, I maintained my rejection of religious attacks in this case as in others .... Consequently, the tone, particularly that of the Viennese anti-Semitic press, seemed to me unworthy of the cultural tradition of a great nation. I was not in agreement with the sharp anti-Semitic tone, but from time to time I read arguments which gave me some food for thought.”

It was only his radicalisation by Christian Dr. Karl Lueger, and the Christian Social Party, that changed him.

“How many of my basic principles were upset by this change in my attitude toward the Christian Social movement! My views with regard to anti-Semitism thus succumbed to the passage of time, and this was my greatest transformation of all.”

Christians not as violent as Muslims or prone to radicalising their young? Tell that to the millions of Holocaust victims.
Posted by csteele, Monday, 27 May 2013 6:39:55 PM
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Csteele,
Snap! Bringing forth Godwins law is considered trolling/ derailing on most reputable forums because it's an anti intellectual stance, we're talking about Islam, Hitler's views are irrelevant to this thread. Furthermore the "Holocaust" is purely a Jewish talking point, it has nothing to do with Islam, Australia, Britain or the failed cult of multiculturalism if you want to discuss Christianity and your theory on it's connection with the people who died in German custody in the National Socialist era please do it somewhere else.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Monday, 27 May 2013 8:02:09 PM
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