I'm delusional says q&a; hopefully that must mean he's not real.

q&a will be gratified to see the latest survey about media bias:

https://theconversation.com/whose-views-skew-the-news-media-chiefs-ready-to-vote-out-labor-while-reporters-lean-left-13995?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Latest+from+The+Conversation+for+20+May+2013&utm_content=Latest+from+The+Conversation+for+20+May+2013+CID_ec3fba5ac86d12d9cbbd958b305026c6&utm_source=campaign_monitor&utm_term=Whose%20views%20skew%20the%20news%20Media%20chiefs%20ready%20to%20vote%20out%20Labor%20while%20reporters%20lean%20left

Nearly 1/2 of the abc vote green; now, that's delusional. Our tax dollar at work.

Thanks, Alan. An excellent analysis - much appreciated, as are the comments from Lexi and Peter. As for the ABC, it is no longer left-wing, if it ever was. It's always been homophobic, pro religion, pro USA and rather dull.

"Thanks, Alan. An excellent analysis - much appreciated, as are the comments from Lexi and Peter. As for the ABC, it is no longer left-wing, if it ever was. It's always been homophobic, pro religion, pro USA and rather dull."

That's an excellent p..s take; Alan will believe you.

No cohenite, one of your fellow travellers thinks you are delusional.

"definition of delusional ... can be applied to anyone who attacks their opponants (sic) as liars, frausters (sic) or incompetents."

You said Alan is defending liars and cheats and incompetents.

Ergo, you are delusional.

"Moody's says longer period of deficits only marginally affects Australia's creditworthiness."

http://www.moodys.com/research/Moodys-says-longer-period-of-deficits-only-marginally-affects-Australias--PR_273168

Hello again,

@Jon J, re: “No doubt in forty years the same kind of people who now claim that Gough Whitlam was an economic genius will be telling us that Julia Gillard was driven from power by a sexist cabal of wicked men”

No-one claims Whitlam was a genius. But he did open trade with China. The Coalition pilloried him savagely, calling it treacherous, traitorous, blasphemous and thwarting global anti-Communism.

Now, the Coalition won’t accept Labor saved Australia with its 2009-10 stimulus. “It was trade with China!”

History is likely to repeat.

@cohenite. re: “in fact no expenditure by Swan had any lasting effect.”

Nonsense, Anthony. World’s best economy by a mile.

If not, name one better-placed.

Then explain how, had Australia not handed back that $900 and invested those billions in all that infrastructure you would have avoided even greater deficits and debt with the lower growth and higher dole paments that every other comparable nation experienced.

@runner, re: “It would be a pretty good start for you to state how much money Australia had in the bank 5 years ago and how much debt we now have. Then it would be good for you to tell us what we have to show ...”

Australia had borrowings of 9.7% of GDP when Labor took office in 2007. Then the global financial crisis hit. Australia implemented the world’s strongest stimulus spending. Your borrowings are now 20.7%. So Australia increased borrowings by 11% of GDP.

Two other nations were ranked about where Australia was when the GFC hit – New Zealand and the UK.

NZ had borrowings in 2007 of 19.9%. Now 35.9%. So 16% of GDP were borrowed to survive.

The UK had borrowings in 2007 of 43.4%. Now 90.7%. So 47% of GDP extra were borrowed.

But here’s the thing: Unemployment rocketed in the UK from 5.35% to more than 8%, and in NZ from 3.5% to more than 7%. Growth tumbled in both places and taxes went up. Both copped five quarters of negative growth.

Australia had just the one.

You really can cheer up, Runner.

Cheers,