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Why we allow the destruction of our planet : Comments

By David Swanson, published 15/5/2013

When a large portion of the population believes that catastrophe is a good thing, rather than a bad thing, the influence is toxic.

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It's an interesting subject.

Prof Frank Ferudi hit the nail on the head with this:

http://www.frankfuredi.com/index.php/site/article/3/

But that's only one branch of the doomsdayers. Why do we persist in thinking the end of the world is nigh, if not tomorrow, then certainly next year or in ten years time or 100? Notice the doomsday date is never 1000 years or 10,000 years - they wouldn't get buy in.
Posted by Cheryl, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 10:30:54 AM
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This bloke is so far gone, I think he may be actually certifiable.
Posted by Hasbeen, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 10:44:50 AM
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True Hasbeen
In my view he's barely worth a response. This statement "And if we had direct democracy, polls suggest we would be investing in green energy." They do? If this is the case I think we'd need to look at how the poll question was framed. But it hardly matters what the truth is, with this guy.
Posted by Curmudgeon, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 11:09:31 AM
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Seems plausible enough to me, and well argued too.
The end-time Christians are of course mis-informed by the New York Times bestselling Left Behind series of "novels".
But then I am only a daft duck.
Then again there are completely daft nut cases like this chap and his "kingdom" warriors.
http://jerryboykin.com
Plus Google his name for further connections.
It is also interesting that the Raw Story website also featured an essay on the uktra daft Michelle Bachmann advocating "spiritual" warfare to impose "religious" values on the government.
Posted by Daffy Duck, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 12:13:16 PM
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Dear David,

This is probably one of the saddest articles Iíve read.

Sad because you are clearly passionate about your alarmism but have failed to grasp any form of reality on this subject. You are clearly a member of the unsubstantiated alarmism sect but fail to understand or even be aware of what changes have occurred in the last five years.

All I can do is point to the fact that whatever ďscienceĒ you adhere to as the basis for your distress, it has evaporated.

As has been pointed out many times on OLO, your challenge is not about the science, itís about why your science is no longer good enough to support your global response to your global problem? So there seems little point in banging on about it here.

Itís curious that the sceptics have been told we are flat earthers, deniers, low on intelligence and mentally ill and yet it is the might of your intellect and that of your fellow elites who have failed, odd that?

Why do you think the global CAGW response infrastructure has collapsed and what do you think should be done about it?

We have yet to receive any answers to these simple questions from one single warmer on OLO, so good luck and over to you.
Posted by spindoc, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 12:31:53 PM
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Hi David,
On your numbers your strategy of trying to convert the masses to the truth of what you say is doomed - too many people believe in heaven and in God. As you say, many of them are fundamentalist ... even purposely ignoring any examination of the truth (a total contradiction to the message of Christ who said He was the Way, the Truth & the Life)

While I do agree with you that we face BIG problem, that is as far as I can go with you. Unfortunately you too are a fundamentalist in your own understanding of theism - you have the same fundamental view of God as the fundamentalists.

You say "theism is essentially the belief that some more powerful being is running the show." You reject this, as do I - but I have a Truth seeker's understanding of God, not the reactionary view you prefer.

An experience of love shows that love is not about control.

You also say that "theism is anti-democratic at its core." I would agree, but not for the fundamentalist reasons you present. There are Truth-filled reasons for seeing "democracy", even at its very best, as a deception, unjust, a false god in which to have faith.

I return to your strategy & to the the unviability of your fundamentalist declaration that "Jesus isn't coming back". A workable strategy would clearly need to bring as many theists (& athiests) on board as possible. To do so could not involve hiding your aggression towards theists - you would actually need a new understanding & presentation about the scientific truth that theists could respect & accept.

You are quite wrong to say that "the non-armageddonist theists have never found a logical solution to the problem of free will, either." I think you would need to put some effort into understanding this for yourself because it is a journey. If love is indeed The Way out of our fix as I believe, we can't get there by creating division.

Chris Baulman
@landrights4al
Posted by landrights4all, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 12:58:52 PM
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