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Why we allow the destruction of our planet : Comments

By David Swanson, published 15/5/2013

When a large portion of the population believes that catastrophe is a good thing, rather than a bad thing, the influence is toxic.

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This article presents a very US-centric view of the world. Fundamentalists who take a literal view of Armageddon and the end of the world are a much smaller proportion of Christians here or in Europe, for example, than in the USA. And active Christians are a smaller proportion of the population.

If I extrapolate from my own acquaintances and OLO contributors (and I know this is probably not a representative same!) I’d guess that climate change sceptics are on balance more likely to be atheist/agnostic, and religious believers of various hues are more likely to support the idea the AGW is real. Runner is of course one clear exception, but s/he is not typical of Christian thought in my experience.

If religious fundamentalism explains human inaction on climate change, why are less religious societies also doing very little? Why is China now the world’s largest GHG emitter?

I agree with Chris, too, that David’s presumption that theists must believe in a string-pulling God does not do justice to the diversity and subtly of Christian though on free will and human agency.

More generally, though, I think this article demonstrates one of the main problems with both sides of the climate change debate – their need to ridicule, demean or dismiss those who disagree with them. So denialism/warmism is dismissed as a product of ideological/religious brainwashing, low intelligence, or corporate/interest group propaganda.

We might finally make some progress when both sides of the debate acknowledge that the people they disagree with are as intelligent, impartial, well-informed and socially responsible as they are.
Posted by Rhian, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 2:51:42 PM
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Belief in AGW is a serious pathology.

AGW continues to exist because of zealots who exhibit this mental bifurcation where, on the one hand their blame of the disbelievers of AGW for not only not believeing but causing AGW is misanthropic, while on the other hand their assumption that they, as believers, have the power to control nature is delusional.

Sick stuff.
Posted by cohenite, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 4:04:52 PM
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More references on the psycho-pathology of right-wing Christian politics as it is promoted and dramatized in the USA.
Two which are now ten years old

http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/1116
http://serendipity.li/wot/goetterdaemmerung.htm
Plus check out the essays by Loren Adams on TPJ Magazine
Also the work of Frank Schaeffer.
Frank is the son of Francis Schaeffer the writings/rantings of which have inspired the entirely toxic website Worldnet Daily which is as far off the wall as anything like balanced sanity that you could find. And the inspiration behind the really scary (totalitarian in its cultural implications) book Total Truth by Nancy Pearsey.
Posted by Daffy Duck, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 5:42:51 PM
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Apart from being a touch too U.S. oriented it is a good article, not scientifically based, but nevertheless a reasonable summation of real world opinions. Others may see it differently, but that is their right.

Cohenite, Pray tell, why is the Arctic ice cap melting.

David
Posted by VK3AUU, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 6:40:07 PM
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'Nonetheless, among the things we should be doing right now is explaining to our neighbors that Jesus isn't coming back. '

With your idiotic rational David I know who I will believe. Your religion demonstrates great arrogrance.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 7:15:24 PM
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Why we allow the destruction of our planet
David Swanson,
Because there are so many people brainwashed by those brainwashed who think they know best. The anti-abortion brigade, the civil libertarians i.e. criminal-lovers et al who are always opposing & even sabotaging any attempts by reasonable thinking people to put society on a better track.
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 15 May 2013 7:30:02 PM
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