Dear Shadow Minister,

A couple of responses to your statements are necessary.

Firstly, it is an issue for what the slush fund was
intended, who donated to it and why the lies surrounding
it. The court will decide this matter in June and whether
its purpose was lawful. I don't doubt for one moment that
the donors to this fund were fully aware of its purpose.

BTW - this matter was covered by Michelle Grattan, political
editor of The Age newspaper, the Sydney Morning Herald picked
it up, the ABC, covered it, as did the 7.30 Report with Kerry
O'Brien, to name just a few. They all repeated the same story.

In regards to your claim about the quotes from Mr Abbott -
they actually prove that he did lie. In 1998 he told the
AEC that he had consulted with leading electoral lawyers -
so the AEC took him at his word and closed the file until
they were forced to re-open it in 2003. Then in 2003 Mr
Abbott admitted, "I didn't take legal advice on disclosure
till i got the AEC's lett (in 2003)..." In other words he
had lied earlier (in 1998) to the AEC.

Here's the 7.30 Report link that Poirot gave in her post and
as she stated - read it and see what your "Pillar of Honesty,"
exemplifies.

Appaling.

Lexi,

You are being deliberately dishonest. The full context of his quote was:

"I didn’t take legal advice on disclosure till after I got the AEC’s letter. I sought legal advice and got oral advice from a senior lawyer."

In which he refers to his earlier conversation with a senior lawyer, but saying that he didn't "TAKE LEGAL ADVICE" until approached by the AEC, which if you had read my earlier post is not the same as a conversation with a lawyer.

There is no contradiction, no indication that what he said was not true, and therefore no lie. Unlike the lies that Juliar told with regards her dealing with the AWA, and the carbon tax.

As for the purpose of the fund, there is no indication of anything unlawful. Unlike Juliar's slush fund which threatened businesses to contribute and then stole the money, some of it possibly going to Juliar.

Lexi one can only assume you are either a dope or wilfully ignoring the facts; or both.

The AEC takes noone at face value; they looked at the trust document and engaged their own lawyers.

The trust was not an associated entity.

This is a beat up by the usuall leftie sources Grattan, O'Brien, who will be out of jobs when the abc is defunded and Fairfax goes under.

Susie; so you are willing to bet on who goes to jail: Abbott or Gillard?

so you are willing to bet on who goes to jail: Abbott or Gillard?

I suppose its too much to hope for that BOTH of them get assigned to the big house ??

Dear Shadow Minister,

Mr Abbott admitted that he did not take legal advice
on disclosure until after he got the AEC's letter in 2003.
It was then he sought legal advice and got it from a
senior lawyer. This means that he lied in 1998 to the AEC
when he told the Commission that he spoke with one of
Australia's leading electoral lawyers on the matter.
As a result of this lie the AEC closed the file in 1998.
They were forced to re-open it in 2003.
Mr Abbott sought legal advice only after the AEC's letter
to him in 2003.

I find it amazing how much lee-way you're willing to
give Mr Abbott and how little to the PM. Different strokes
for different folks. In any case the court will decide
the matter in June. However as Michelle Grattan pointed out
earlier, Mr Abbott does not bring an unblemished record
to his case.

And as Grattan summed up so well:

"Should we be surprised that Abbott calls on the PM to tell us all
but was reticent himself. Not really.
It's the old story of the boot being on the other foot."

Or in this case in his mouth.

Here's as Poirot pointed out earlier is the man doing
what he does best, being the "Pillar of Honesty,"
you admire so much:

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2003/s933489.htm

isn't it amazing how telling the truth has become so important now that Mr Abbott looks like being PM. From the greatest moral dilemma this century to no carbon tax, to we will be fiscal conservatives, to we will oppose 'gay ' marriage, we will be in surplus, we never heard once from the rusted on Labour voters. Not to mention Slipper, Thompson etc etc. Good to know that truth does matter however rather pathetic that its been ignored for a good 5 years.