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How to stop the boats : Comments

By David Leyonhjelm, published 6/5/2013

The Government cannot stop the boats and the Opposition's plan won't do it either. But charging a fee will.

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When a woman sells her body it is called prostitution. And she only sells it for one use.

What do you call it when you sell your whole society, & country, for ever?

Only a bl00dy fool academic could see this idea as anything but totally immoral. It is actually totally disgusting to suggest that becoming an Ozzie is open to the highest bidder. YUCK.

You stop an invasion by sinking the invaders, far enough away to make it impossible to swim to the destination. As I have said before, give me a couple of old patrol boats, & some fuel, & I will have no trouble getting volunteers to man for free them to stop the boats.

It is about time that we came first, & gate crashers came nowhere. No problem there but for a lack of guts.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 6 May 2013 11:24:46 AM
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"Most of the people arriving in Australia in leaky fishing boats are economic refugees seeking a better life. Moreover, they are from families with the means to pay for passage on a boat. They are neither the poorest nor the most vulnerable from the societies they leave behind."

This entire utterly 'begs the question', in the formal, logic-based sense of that phrase, because the argument is entirely circular. You start with the bald assertion above, and base your reasoning throughout the article on it. However, you have presented no evidence of this whatsoever.

In fact, according to the Department of Immigration and Citizenship, over 90% of asylum seekers who arrived by boat were found to be genuine refugees in 2011-12. That's right, 90% were genuinely fleeing for their lives. I'm no maths genius, but I'm pretty sure that less than 10% does not equal "most".

http://www.immi.gov.au/media/publications/statistics/asylum/_files/asylum-trends-aus-annual-2011-12.pdf

And @Ojnab you are literally a psychopath. Please have yourself committed immediately for the safety of wider society.
Posted by speegster, Monday, 6 May 2013 12:10:30 PM
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Hasbeen, quite deliberately and knowingly drowning non combatant civilians, many of who are very genuine refugees and or asylum seekers, is murder, except say, in the third Reich! Jawol?
Flying them over, well we already do that, but particularly, with the many who overstay their visas, the real illegals!
That said, we already have an economic migrant policy.
And the minimum amount needed to independently live on, is a good deal higher than that proposed.
As a former service man, I lived rougher conditions than Manis Island, and for months at a time.
The young men, living there, know exactly how to tug at the female heartstrings, that's often how they got the money to transition and or, pay their passage on a often entirely unseaworthy boats.
We can only take so many, regardless of what system we employ; even the current sea taxi service we seem to be providing.
I thought the more humane Malaysian regional solution, should have at least been trialled.
That agreement saw people allowed to live in the community, work and attend school.
As for not allowing irregular arrivals to work for up to ten years, simply encourages a lift of comparable proportions, in the crime rate! I would instead,require them to work, as say farm labour, for a minimum wage, or the dole, for up to ten years, or for until it was safe for them to return!
And I've have no problem with tin shanty shearer quarters'.
I've lived in something even more basic.
I mean four walls, three basic wholesome meals per day and basic free medical care? Do we owe these people anything more than that?
If they want to stay, they need to learn English, gain sponsors, and be prepared to settle where they were sent?
It's a privilege to live here! Let those we open the door to, at the very least, earn it!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Monday, 6 May 2013 12:11:56 PM
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Rhrosty your non combatant civilians are my invasion force.

They are an invasion force in exactly the same way as if they came caring assault rifles.

They are here to do us no good at all, & I refuse to accept people self selecting to migrate to Oz.

If we are not strong enough in our physical, political or emotional guts to repel them, then we are bound to end up like the Balkans or the middle east, where half the population hate the other half.

History shows us that when societies become too easy & kind, they are dying. Fortunately I won't be around to see the demise of this one, as it gets what the bleeding hearts have designed for us.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 6 May 2013 12:37:16 PM
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Why do we have to have this endless stream of rot? It is not our ocean, anyone is allowed to safe peacefully and safely to where ever they want and we have no right to stop them.

And they are not economic anything just because they pay their own way.

Jesus wept, will all the rancid clowns just go the hell away?
Posted by Marilyn Shepherd, Monday, 6 May 2013 2:59:41 PM
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Sounds like the Libs are resurrecting the 10 pound pom scheme - except this time it won't be able to be subsidised by the stolen Aboriginal wages. Typically, they are prepared to sell to the highest bidder. Greed and profit are the values that drive their policies. They work from the basic precept that people who have money are superior humans - not that they might be the biggest rogues and that is why they have the dough.

I would like to see dual citizenship abolished, so that people can't have two-bob-each-way by retaining their original citizenship and having an additional Australian one.

As for Hasbeen, such a happy chap gleefully discussing murder on the high seas, his thought process is alarming
Posted by Aka, Monday, 6 May 2013 3:45:44 PM
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