All this hokey self righteous victim industry who are abusing the real meaning of human rights I find pathetic and highly insensitive to mainstream culture.

I’m an absolute freedom loving free spirited person but I hate contrivance and its unnaturalness and the way political correctness is going. Dark waters ahead. And my gay friends despise it also.
They’re killing cultures. There is no such thing as compromise in the progressive ideology - only bullying.

Hey Jay,

Yes, Jack Donovan who is gay. He is definitely onto it. Men are being demasculated. I’m all for true diversity. Let men be men – it’s their natural God given right.

And these militant feminists who are also dominating in the Post Liberal New World Order scheme of things have got to stop thinking they're superior to men. We're only equal.

Banjo P wrote "I suggest the text be modified to read: "Marriage, means the union of two persons to the exclusion of all others, voluntarily entered into for life".

I suggest removing the word "marriage" from any gov't legislation (e.g the Marriage Act becomes the Civil Union Act)

Let "married" be what people want to call themselves, however they came to be wed.

Keep gov't out of "marriage". The only reason we have a Marriage Act is because churches had influence in binding church to state.

Constance,
On the other hand maybe Gay marriage will be of benefit to all married men if Gay men carry forward their demands for equal treatment under the law. I wonder too how many Gay men really intend to enter into a system that penalises masculinity and discriminates against fathers and male spouses.
The way Jack Donovan and the rest of the Alt/right discuss masculinity reveals the way mannerbund have always been a threat to the establishment and to the state, which if these calls for male unity are heeded bodes not well for the gynocentric status quo.
Fascists and National Socialists were obsessed with the state, specifically the male state, their attitudes to homosexuality stemmed from their fear of the male organisation, the mannerbund undermining the state. Heinrich Himmler gave a speech to a gathering of his recruiters where he laid out the SS position on male organistaions such as Gay clubs and the priesthood, basically the last thing they wanted was men showing love or loyalty to other men before loyalty to the SS and the Reich, that's one of the reasons they persecuted the priesthood and broke up all the gay clubs and male associaitions like the Scouts.
I digress but the point I'm getting to is that this call for "marriage equality" sounds awfully like a call for conformity and submission to the rules of the state, which in this day is completely gynocentric. Feminists (of both genders) are indeed female supremacists because they measure themselves against other groups such as men (the patriarchy) and seek to dominate them."Traditionalists" or conservatives, the "other feminists" simply see women as superior to men, they're goddesses or madonnas, to be worshipped and carried aloft by their men.
Neither side can tolerate virility, male self assurance, male bonds or male associations, this is where Donovan and his milieu are really onto something, great social change could come about via male unity and allegiance to our brothers, especially between straight and homosexual men given that the schwerpunkt has now shifted to this dubious concept of "marriage equality".

Banjo.
The goal of Globalisation is one global standard for every facet of human life, with one global state overseeing all transactions for the well being of all, the end point is global communism in other words.
The "Gay" and Second Wave Feminist movements we know today grew out of Marxism, that's demonstrably true, go look it up.
Heterosexual relationships are based on a method of exchange, the male exchanges his surplus labour for the woman's reproductive capacity and vice versa, now do you see where a Marxist sees his entree to "our bedrooms"?
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And there was I, thinking that it couldn't possibly get any more ridiculous, Jay of Melbourne.

Well, I was wrong. I admit it. It just gets more and more hilarious each post.

>>Gay marriage is just a relatively benign part of the globalist/imperialist agenda,just as Anti Smoking campaigns and cancer research were part of the Nazis'imperialist agenda.<<

According to this, anti-smoking campaigns are features of a Fascist dictatorship. And so is cancer research - presumably, in your concept of democracy, no research into killer diseases should be undertaken, lest the perpetrators be viewed as master-race imperialists?

That has 'em rocking in the aisles already... but do go on.

>>... the last thing [the Nazis] wanted was men showing love or loyalty to other men before loyalty to the SS and the Reich, that's one of the reasons they persecuted the priesthood and broke up all the gay clubs and male associaitions like the Scouts.<<

And they replaced the Scout movement with... the Wandervogel Movement. Check it out.

And... didn't the Nazi Party have many of its early meetings in the Bratwurstgloeckl, a well-known meeting place for the butchest of gays? And wasn't one of Hitler's earliest backers (if you'll excuse the expression) one Ernst Roehm, whom William Schirer described as "a stocky, bull-necked, piggish-eyed, scar- faced professional soldier...[and] like so many of the early Nazis, a homosexual"

What could possibly top that? Oh... there's this.

>>The goal of Globalisation is one global standard for every facet of human life, with one global state overseeing all transactions for the well being of all, the end point is global communism in other words.<<

That conjures up the image of Arjay's bankster elites, who are apparently controlling all our lives, and flying false flags all over the place.

You're just a barrel of laughs.