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Legalisation won't resolve the debate : Comments

By Mark Christensen, published 26/4/2013

Gay marriage may be legislated but that won't be enough to legitimise it

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Dear Jay Of Melbourne,

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You wrote:

"Gay marriage is just a relatively benign part of the globalist/imperialist agenda ... ".

That is an extremely original observation, Jay Of Melbourne.

Would you be so kind as to share with us the detailed evidence which has led you to this somewhat astonishing conclusion ?

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Sunday, 28 April 2013 12:07:45 AM
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......Wether couples are hetrosexual or homosexual, it should be accepted that their personal wishes as regards their relationship and being be respected, for no other reason than their personal and private lives are their own; without right of criticism from others.,

So Kipp, why is it that gays won't respect the personal wishes of normal people's marriage.

Why is it that they (gays) want to break in to OUR WORLD, when there is a very simple solution, that being finding another word?

Where is your respect for our wishes?

I don't think anyone here is denying SS couples their freedom to get hitched, we are simply protecting our rights to the meaning of the word married, as like it or not, married refers to the union of a man and woman.

So while you ask that we respect the rights of gays, gays are not respecting our rights to the protection of a law that has been recognized world wide for thousands of years.

But, no doubt these SS lobbyists will not give up and the squeaky wheel scenario will see them get their wish one day, but I fear it will be of little consequence as they, gay marriages will never be accepted, or respected as a normal marriage, so even then gays will not be satisfied.

I will say this till the day I die, FIND ANOTHER WORD!
Posted by rehctub, Sunday, 28 April 2013 6:17:58 AM
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They can call what they do what they want but aping an ancient rite doesn't make it right. They claim to be creative, for once then BE so, and develop a suitable rite of their own, all the legals like benefits, de-facto laws are (correctly) the same. I no more recognise them as married than a pair of dogs in an Elvis Chapel.
Posted by McCackie, Sunday, 28 April 2013 7:26:09 AM
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All humans start life as female!
Some of them are transformed in the womb, by a release of hormones, by the mother, into males.
As throughout the animal kingdom, this process is not always complete.
In other cases, the testosterone load may be elevated and cause some change, without completing it.
There are four sex control centres at the base of the brain, two for males and two for females.
One controls normal arousal and attraction, the other your libido or sexual appetite.
Sometimes an inappropriate sex centre is the one turned on.
In no case can we hold the baby responsible for this outcome!
Yet some of us, through our extreme ignorance of basic biology, do just that!
And let me tell you, a broad medical education, doesn't always overcome indoctrinated or habitual bigotry!
In a case in Scotland some years ago, a repeat offending paedophile, was brought before the same judge for the third time.
The judge gave him just two choices, internment for the term of his natural life, or hospitalisation, where experimental brain surgery could be trialled.
Various observations allowed the doctors to understand that all four of his sex centres were firing, hence the attraction to both male and female simultaneously, represented in prepubescent boys?
A tiny filament was inserted into the base of the brain and the inappropriately firing female centres burnt out, leaving only those normal to heterosexual males still firing!
After a period of around twelve months, he took a singular interest in females, eventually married and had kids.
We also know of a reported case of a alpha male footballer, having a neck injury, which damaged the normal male sex centres.
After a period of around twelve months, the same male took up hairdressing and a formerly unthinkable unnatural interest in the same sex.
In neither or any other case, is the person responsible for their normal for them, reactions or attractions.
There is simply no element of choice in your entirely autonomous responses.
Asking anyone to control that is tantamount to asking them to, i.e., control normal knee reflexes!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Sunday, 28 April 2013 10:31:37 AM
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Given the overwhelming majority now favour marriage equality, it should be legislated into law.
Obama formed that view and came from behind, to win a second term election.
Even when it is legislated into law, some of the abysmally ignorant, will continue to bash gays, physically or verbally, or just by denying them equal human rights.
This should be all the ammunition we need to bring in a bill of basic human rights! One of which ought to allow complete freedom to pursue happiness and consensual adult sex, in all its normal divergent human forms.
Given dumb animals can't ever give consent, bestiality in all its forms, ought to continue to be outlawed.
Ditto torture and the deprivation of liberty, through any means, including things like financial control!
If anyone had travelled to Bulgaria, Romania and a few other eastern European states, and seen how state wards were treated, sometimes in little better than prison camp like conditions; none would stand in the way of gay adoptions.
Homosexuality is not a transmittable disease, just an accident of birth, that no sane person would chose as an outcome, given all the ramifications!
At the end of the day we need to get the horse ahead of the cart and focus on outcomes for kids, rather than a plethora of completely ignorant assumptions, which to date, have all but controlled this debate.
Homosexuals bullying others into submission?
Well given the gay demographic, is just around 10% of the voting population, that assertion is just extreme bigotry personified; and or, out of date, highly risible propaganda, that has absolutely, no foundation in fact whatsoever!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Sunday, 28 April 2013 11:02:26 AM
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Dear Banjo Paterson,

“That is an extremely original observation, Jay Of Melbourne.” Have you been living in a bubble over there? Haven’t you noticed the world is changing - New World Order and all that. Where Western countries are gradually losing their national sovereignties and all has become politicized. What Jay is talking about is the elite imperialists - the so called Liberals/Progressive politicians - Post Liberals/Post Modernists if you like, that are pushing new agendas in a totalitarian manner at the cost of your ordinary folk. This is where REFERENDEMS are needed - as Switzerland does as many politicians no longer have the interests of general society. We can no longer rely on the illiberal progressives in parliaments anymore. They’re zombies.

The John Waters example used by Jay. (I’m realising more and more of how much of a Bohemian I really am.) Waters is basically saying that the minority noisy gay campaigners are giving Gays are bad name - that is they’re losing their Cool status (mojo/charm).

Gays use to be so much more interesting and edgy and had notoriety/outsider cred, but harmless to society. Why on earth do they want to join mainstream. Gays are much more fun when they don’t become the political jerks you have today.

Ie. Mind your own business and do not impede in the rights of others in society. We have always had diversity but the key world is BALANCE, not DIVISION. I don’t believe we need to destroy existing traditions in order for the neurotic (gimme gimme materialists) needy new You have to draw the line in the sand. Yes, I am a cautious person and I am pretty pessimistic about the consequences of same sex marriage because it will eventually involve more rights to parent children. Yes, I worry about the psychological effects and complexities this will have upon children. Kids are going to have enough to deal in their globalised futures let alone stigmatization and the rest. /Cont…
Posted by Constance, Sunday, 28 April 2013 11:13:12 AM
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