Geoff
All that supercilious ad hominem mind-reading assumes that you are already right in the first place.

As your illogic, my critique, and your evasions have just proved, you're not.

Suck it up bro.

Thanks ‘BRO’, you have just outed yourself, “All that supercilious ad hominem mind-reading assumes that you are already right in the first place. As your illogic, my critique, and your evasions have just proved, you're not. Suck it up bro.”

Fortuitously you have done what I expected, torn the bait from the rod, there is no logic or critique needed, and you have not provided either, silly man.

Whether I am right. time will of course tell, have you forgotten the need to study history?

Cohenite, Spindoc and others on this site differ in their views, we do however, try to remain within the realm of reality.

Unfortunately you have proven that you are unable to articulate your own stance, oblivious of our need to feed our insatiable hunger to denounce your prognostications.

I would suggest that I could parachute out of a snake’s a.se provided you were a viper. Please articulate how I can satisfy you need for this to occur.

I acknowledge that Cohenite, Spindoc and others have realised my stance and remain stoically abhorrent to some of my beliefs. I have no problem with this, they have views and so do I. This is what OLO is for.

You unfortunately remain enwrapped in a manta of denial and obsequious irrational detraction from reality, stay true bro you will eventually find some truth that fits your delusion.

Psychologically speaking, I understand your need to overcome your obvious failure in your professional life, please don’t take out your frustrations on me, I have better things to worry about.

Life is short and you have shown that some deserve less than others

Have a pleasurable Saturday evening if that is at all possible for someone so pious and ‘right’ as yourself

Cheers Geoff

Geoff
All that assumes that you're right.

So why don't you answer my question which you know very well you can't answer without proving yourself wrong?

OK JKJ if you need it in black and white...

"Your self-abnegation is commendable piety in one so ostentatiously pious. Still, how do you know you’re not consuming too much and too many natural resources? How do you know you’re not screwing up the planet more than you are morally entitled to? Indeed since, according to you, human life is self-evidently bad for the environment, are you entitled to live at all? Please explain how you you know the appropriate and moral level of consumption for any given person?".

Well JKJ since I don't consume or take from my net environment, my scientific EROEI is positive on my side, so I have a little to play with in terms of what I have construed as 'balanced'.

I have never stated "human life is self-evidently bad for the environment" however it is pretty obvious to the ley man or woman in the street we are now having a detrimental impact on ourselves (ever heard of a positive [negative] feedback impact), obviously not. Again this strengthens my argument.

There is no moral level of consumption, I am just acutely aware that my current impact, and that of my family (oh yes so sorry I have had the ability to breed) is globally, negative.

Too bad your moral high-ground espoused position precludes you from demonstrating the same; then again, you have no interest in ensuring the on-going perpetuation of our species, just another hypocrite with a well-worn moral imposition supposedly worthy of you typing on a computer.

Respond in kind and I will refute, denigrate through assumption of a false moral high ground and I will ridicule.

Do you finally get the message...

Jardine K. Jardine,
Your famous explorer pioneer namesake of the late 1800's would most likely be not very happy about finding out you're constantly driving on the wrong side of the road :-)

"however it is pretty obvious to the ley man or woman in the street we are now having a detrimental impact on ourselves"

No, that is just wrong; things have never been better for more people than today; and it is all due to resisting nature and natural 'constraints'; that is what the average guy knows and what he also knows is the lie being told by the alarmists and greens that he should tighten his belt further; people are sick of not being able to pay their electricity and eat at the same time.

What I would like to see is a massive effort made to colonise first the Moon and then Mars. The technology is already there or on the drawing board.

It would be great boon to mankind and shut the doom and gloom parade up; although maybe that is a harder task then settling Mars.