Pericles,
That's just plain stupid !

I'm a little surprised the anti-population folk are still carrying on as the article and others on OLO and elsewhere have shown their true socio-biological colours. They love earth so much they would rid the earth of humans - the one specie who identifies with its beauty.

The anti-people lobby remind me of a drunk who has lost his car keys. He wanders up and down the street but only looks where there is a street light. When asked why, he says, 'because it's lighter over here'. I remember Hugh Streeton teaching economists how to tell social science 'fact' from fiction and how to correctly operationalise phenomenon.

The anti-pops desperately need to revisit basic social science texts and start looking at how phenomena presents itself and how to determine cause and effect. They are, in the main, an embarrassing joke.

Another word or two of writing on the wall ?

Egypt is to start diesel rationing in a couple of months.

But Bazz, you old dog whistler..

This is from Bloomberg:

"Egypt, which needs to reduce government expenditure, plans to introduce ration cards for subsidized fuel in its next fiscal year.

Egypt’s oil Oil Minister Osama Kamal said “The main purpose of the coupons or the smart-card system is for subsidies to reach those who deserve them and to curb the smuggling phenomenon.” (Bloomberg)

It's an anti-expenditure and anti-smuggling measure.... Unless of course they really know what happened to Marilyn Monroe and they have Harold Holt doing laps in what's left of the Presidential Palace.

Thats right Cheryl, they have been suffering with a diesel shortage for
at least 12 months. All fuel in Egypt is subsidised which is meant that
their use has been quite wasteful.
The objective is to make the diesel available to the most urgent users.
They have garbage building up in the streets as
the garbos cannot get reliable supply.
That is just one example.

They got themselves into this mess as they were an exporter of oil
until 2000 when their production peaked and they became an importer
about, I think, 2005. Their subsidies were not reduced and the govt
started running out of money due to food and oil imports price
increases and export income decrease.
Food and oil prices rose and the subsidies were reduced.
That caused the rioting and eventually the overthrow of the government.

It is all made worse because over the years their population
increased from 40 million to 80 million and the Nile can no longer
support their population.
At present they are existing on charity from the Gulf states.
The IMF is trying to lay down some conditions for a loan.

You listening Ludwig, there is a classic example for your campaign.

There endeth the 2nd lesson.

Cohenite, I don't believe that I have ever supported the AGW mantra, I do however observe, investige and measure the marine environment, part of my employment, it shows our localised climate is changing, all be it slowly and mostly from a system dynamic point of view.

Whether anthroprogenic impact is a cause/effect is yet to be scientifically verified and I commend you for your stance but wish you would cite peer reviewed evidence to support your claims.

You should always consider what makes Earth special; the life on it. Otherwise, it's just another ball of metal and rock in a vast, inhospitable Universe. Here I am referring to life, not saving the earth. The biosphere is a completely different thing from the 'earth'.

Bokonon translates pool-pah at one point in The Books of Bokonon as "s.it storm" and at another point as "wrath of God."
— from Kurt Vonnegut's Cats Cradle, chapter 110.

He wrote:

'The Fourteenth Book is entitled, "What Can A Thoughtful Man Hope for Mankind on Earth, Given the Experience of the Past Million Years?"'

It doesn't take long to read The Fourteenth Book. It consists of one word and a period. This is it: Nothing.

You won't find any "market calls" from me, you see, sometimes the pool-pah exceeds the power of humans to comment.

As for terra-forming the Moon and Mars, well I will leave that to the Cornucopians who believe we don't have an energy problem on this planet and all things being equal, life will go on, ever upward and outward despite the rational and obvious scientific evidence to the contrary!

If you wish to be a 'Star Man' good luck and good fortune, I think you will be disappointed with the results. Take some really good books if you ever make it that far, which I firmly disbelieve given our current energy constraints and our ever failing economic fortune based on fractinal reserve banking and a system that rewards greed over the common good of mankind.
Cheers

Geoff