...Racism? Just add alcohol and this is the result, (Perth style)!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZriGoasS_U

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)

Okay Vic,
For a start you don't define "racism" and you don't show how you came to the figure of 70%, you could have gone into detail instead of offering a one page statement.
Secondly Rosa Parks was a political activist trained in the tactics of non violent civil disobedience by the American Communist Party, she wasn't just a "tired seamstress" as she is normally portrayed.
Yes, she was asked to move because of her race but she reacted as she'd been trained to react, contrast her behaviour with that of the Negro men who did move when asked.
How do you come to the conclusion that Jeremy Fernandez was asked to move because of his race and not for his own safety? If I saw a man being abused and he was unable to defend himself without putting his child at risk I'd give him the same advice, move away from the aggressor. You also ignore the fact that two men facing down a belligerent and abusive woman in public is a risky move, the Police and the courts are always going to come down on the side of the woman if the encounter goes pear shaped and violence ensues.
The bus driver's advice was correct and sensible because he would have to deal with drunk, belligerent and deranged people all day every day, Fernandez should have listened to him. Vic, I'll wager you've never been in the presence of women the likes of those Aboriginal girls in the video linked above, even for a strong young man there's no option but to walk away.
Then we come to Fanny Desaintjores, you're incorrect, she was not alone, she was part of a group who admitted that they were loudly singing at the back of the bus, were asked to shut up but who kept on baiting the other passengers anyway and copped a serve from some lowlifes who, true to form completely snapped and went as they say "ballistic".

Continuing.
Everyone know that the Anti Racists' first instinct is to lie, when caught out they try to obfuscate and will begin to regurgitate the nonsense they were taught at University then when facing their inevitable defeat they simply "refuse to engage" and deem their interrogators "racists".

Vic, the Deakin study to which you refer is laughable, not only is it full of contradictions, it's definition of "Racism" is basically unintelligible and it draws in as supporting evidence a whole set of circumstances, practices and events which are widely separated both chronologically and geographically. It further asserts that "racism" is not a result of any individual pathology, that it's a social disease caused by modernity...how bizarre, I guess Anti Racists like all academic charlatans can reliably call most people's bluff, after all no parent is actually going to read their reports much less question them so they can pretty much say anything they want.
The whole argument for Anti Racism is based on the same delusion of this global White supremacy and White Privilege that forms the basis of white Nationalism, it's a trap because it transposes the uniquely American concept of race and it's peculiar institutions onto all majority European societies. Australia is not a racial society, nor are the European countries or indeed the U.K, in the mind of a sane adult the American institution of White supremacy and White privilege would stand alone, the only common thread linking Rosa Parks with Jeremy Fernandez is the bus.

Rosa Parks was a civil rights activist and was not going to stand for bus or any other kind of segregation. Racism exists, and it should be protested where it exists.

JOB wrote: "Everyone know that the Anti Racists' first instinct is to lie, when caught out they try to obfuscate and will begin to regurgitate the nonsense they were taught at University then when facing their inevitable defeat they simply "refuse to engage" and deem their interrogators "racists"."

'Everyone knows' in the above is simply nonsense. One doesn't have to go to university to be against racism. It stinks and should be opposed wherever it rears its ugly head.

'As appalling as the incident was, the damning indifference of the onlookers - the bystanders - is possibly even more so. For while there will always be bigots and racists, it is those in positions of authority to whom we turn for leadership in moments of crisis. And it is the humanity of every individual that one hopes will prevail - that one hopes will surface - when a situation cries out for a humane response.'

visit Regional centres in QLD and WA and see how frequent people are called white trash and worse when refusing grog money to groups of our first people. Very amusing when my good African friend told me they told her to go back home in no uncertain terms when she would not comply. Her eyes were open to open, acceptable racism because it was not done by a white man.

David F,
Rosa Parks had been a Communist activist and provocateur since the 1930's, it's a fact, she was not just a "tired seamstress" and the situation didn't arise out of thin air, she was a Marxist Socialist making a political statement. Rosa Parks said in interviews that she had a problem with that particular driver and had decided to do something about him, she admitted that it was a tactical move and she was proud of it. That my friend is the way a provocateur works, she wanted to change the bus company policy so she engineered a crisis to get the ball rolling.

Given that both Vic Alhadff's article and his source material are wholly concerned with training people in Anti Racism your other statement is just silly. All Anti Racists agree and will readily acknowledge that the only way to become part of their world is to be "educated" and they constantly stress that people who are not Anti Racists are ignorant and need education. Since in this day and age most teachers are required to take a degree,that all teachers are required to be Anti Racists and since everybody know this to be true my statement is correct
Let me explain it simply,
An anti Racist is primarily an educator and the legitimacy of their teachings rely on their status as accredited persons.
The only way to become an accredited educator is to take a university course,or to have created a position for yourself by association with accredited person.
It follows that the only way to become and Anti Racist is to become an accredited educator or to work under the direction of an accredited person.

You may say that this is not the case but in the real world this is how anti Racism works.

Dear JOM,

Whether Rosa Parks was or was not a communist is not relevant. Citizens in a democratic country should have equal access to all public facilities. The US Supreme Court in 1952 declared that separate facilities in the case of schools based on race were inherently unequal.

Desegregation then was mandated for all public facilities.

The United States has gone a long way toward racial equality. It has been a hard struggle. The Civil War ended slavery. The Civil Rights movement ended legal segregation. Although racism still exists in the US the country now has a dark skinned president. When I was in the US army in WW2 the army was segregated into black and white units. It didn't seem right to me. We were fighting the Nazis, and we were racist ourselves. President Truman integrated the army. The struggle against racism is still going on. However, Many others and I hope for a day when there is no discrimination anywhere in the world on the basis of ethnicity, race or religion.

A thought provoking article that reminds us all that racism is still with us, and just how ugly racist people can be.

Anyone who denies we have obvious racism in our society can only be one of these racists themselves.

I am not sure though that we can condemn all bystanders that are witnesses to these racist acts for failing to speak up or act.
Many people are afraid of violent acts against themselves if they dare to speak against these disgusting racists.

Racism is a form of violence in itself, even if it is only verbal violence.

Dear runner,

Racism is simply wrong. It is not acceptable to hate white people, Americans or anybody else because of their race or nationality.

However, it is not surprising that those who have been subject to racism also may become racists. Some of those who abuse children were themselves abused as children.

david f

'Racism is simply wrong ' glad to see you don't believe in moral relativism.

Dear runner,

What made you think I believed in moral relativism?

David F,
It does matter that she was an activist who trained with the American Communist Party and a member of the NAACP because it sets Parks' actions in their proper context context, Rosa Parks' refusal to obey bus company rules was a calculated political act and the catalyst for the Montgomery Bus Boycott, classic propaganda by the deed.

You're behaving in exactly the way I described, with rhetoric,obfuscation, indignation and self righteousness and typical straw men and false contradictions like "Nazis" and "Civil rights".
Any discussion of the complicated web of inter-ethnic relations which has now arisen in this country has to be framed by the Anti Racist in strictly racial terms, which is exactly the way a White Nationalist sees the world.
There is no way to link "Racist" events in 21st century Australia with events in the 19th or 20th centuries in Alabama or Europe other than via a racial thesis, that is to say Anti Racists lay the blame at the feet of "The White Race".
The only connection between Rosa Parks and Jeremy Fernandez is the bus, Mrs Parks was not being abused or threatened that evening and Mr Fernandez was not subject to racially biased laws, there is no similarity whatsoever but it's no mystery as to why the connection is made in the minds of anti Racists.
It's obvious to all Australians that anti Racists are not capable of assisting in the management of a multiracial society because they have no practical means of implementing their belief system on the wider population.
Read the study cited in the article, anti Racists are condemned to the agonies of Sisyphus and the reasons why that is so are not difficult to understand.

Dear JOM,

If a law is unjust and the injustice is great a person of conscience is justified in disobeying the law. Disobedience to the law should not be done without good reason, but there was good reason to disobey the segregation rules in the South. They were a calculated political act to keep black people down and to avoid the intent of the constitutional amendments passed after the Civil War in the United States which had as their goal equality under the law for all US citizens regardless of race. It took a calculated political act to overturn unfair laws which were put in place by a calculated political act.

The system of segregation in the US South was ugly, and Rosa Parks is a heroine for her part in ending it. Rosa Parks’ act and the Montgomery Bus Boycott have made the US a better country. Those acts roused the conscience of most of the American people, and the result from that and other civil rights actions were to dismantle the apparatus of segregation. The United States has benefited as the talents of all its citizens can have fuller expression.

Civil Rights are not rhetoric. In the United States they are part of the effort to dismantle the racist heritage of human slavery. Civil disobedience is one way unjust laws get changed. Henry Thoreau, Martin Luther King jr. and Mahatma Gandhi have all practiced it. Thoreau’s “Essay on Civil Disobedience” inspired both Gandhi and King. Thoreau protested the Mexican War which he regarded as a war of aggression. Gandhi protested the British Salt Tax and the British occupation of his country. King protested racial segregation. The protests were all justified acts of civil disobedience.

http://thoreau.eserver.org/civil.html directs you to Thoreau’s essay.

We see things very differently and will probably continue to see things very differently.

David F,
Yeah we'll have to agree to disagree, I understand that but White Supremacy, "Racism" and Racialism are different things with different origins and varying effects:
http://politube.org/show/3732
What's more Australia is not a racial society, after much study of the subject the problem I now have is the Americanisation of any race debate, I have an intimate understanding of White Nationalism as well as Anti Racism and they both do exactly the same thing with race.
I don't know if it's academic laziness or a lack of any internal critique on both sides that is allowing this situation to continue, it's probably both since neither side will allow any public criticism from within the ranks.
White Nationalism and Anti Racism are both inadequate approaches, Australia has never been a "White" society, nor has it been a "Racist" society and the relationships between indigenous people, European and Non European settlers have their own particular character which should not be studied or presented to students through the lens of the American civil rights experience.

One final remark. During the Civil Rights movement J. Edgar Hoover was head of the FBI. He was very opposed to the movement and labeled many of the participants 'communists' to discredit them. Rosa Parks and others may or may not have actually been communists. I don't think we can be sure one way or the other. It was during the Cold War.

Thanks for referring me to the site about 'white people'.