C.Steele: "“For the sake of peace and quiet, yes I agree, as does Anthony, that it is possible to have a national record without having component records.”

I think Anthony really needs to say this himself don't you."

Anthony: “The BOM and the CC could make the point that there does not have to be a record in all the constituent parts of the nation; it is sufficient that it be hot enough everywhere for the record to be broken.”

What's so hard about that?

Mr Cohenite, 'verballed by Sou'? And here I was being polite in the extreme after being referred to (in my absence) as "bister and bluster PC" >:-O

Since you haven't given me the courtesy of providing the information you spoke of when you disputed the fact that "much of what was known about temperatures in the early Holocene was based on ice cores or other more limited data". Do you even know when the early Holocene was? Do you know what paleo records Marcott et al analysed. It certainly doesn't read as if you do. Once again, are you aware or not of any similar global reconstructions that provide the breadth and detail of Marcott et al. (You can't just reel of any single site paleo record - chances are, if it's real and sufficiently long term, it's part of Marcott et al's reconstruction.)

I *was* going to help you out with your early question about how the oceans get warm by suggesting you read this:
http://www.skepticalscience.com/How-Increasing-Carbon-Dioxide-Heats-The-Ocean.html

But given the mixed bag you've been regurgitating from WUWT and other pseudo-science quackery, you probably wouldn't understand it. (I recall another lawyer, Jon Faine, who has an aversion to science. It might be curable, don't know. I do know that it's not a prerequisite for entry to a law degree.)

cohenite, this thread is about the incompetence of the BOM? Oh.

And here I was thinking it was mostly about yours in this opinion piece, I guess that was my mistake.

Still no comment on the yellow line in your cut and pasted graph?

Oh, and I'm most impressed by how you imply that it was I who changed the topic by trolling you. Only a lawyer could do that with such aplomb.
Well done.

Bugsy - The yellow line is exactly what it looks like! an approximation showing the slow down in the rise in OHCA since the Argo buoys were introduced in 2003 - stop being a pedantic idiot and address the topic!

The topic is that the records supplied to the CC were lies - 6 of them, possibly more.

If this were an academic paper it would fail peer review.

If it were an annual company financial report the authors would be in jail.

Therefore it is perfectly reasonable to assume that the Climate Commission's claim of an exceptional hot summer is not correct.

Now address that!

P.S. The problem with contributing to discussions like this is that the warmists are all taxpayer funded academics who speak down to you like you were one of their pimply 20 year old students yet what truly amazes me is that they will allow the BoM to print false and misleading information and yet claim to be scientists!

It's a sad day for science, no wonder the public have become distrusting and sceptical about climate science.

Researcher Ken, so nice of you to drop by. My post referred to your blog post, I even linked to it just to make sure. In case you have forgotten, it started with this:

“So I’m sure all journalists reporting this claim would have referred to the BOM’s Time Series Graphs on their website, which use the ACORN data, to confirm just where this summer was the hottest on record. Forgive the sarcasm- they plainly didn’t. Let’s take a look.”

Then you posted a whole host of dissected charts pointing out that summer 2013 was not the highest temperature in any one of the areas you posted a chart for. Then you wrote this:

“So the only part of Australia left that could be responsible for the summer maximum record, and consequently the mean, is this bottom part of WA not in the south west corner, or perhaps as well the southern portion of Queensland”

So on your blog post you clearly couldn’t add 2 and 2 together. If the temperature was the 2nd highest on record in Southern Australia (after 2001/02 and well above 3rd) and equal second highest in Northern Australia (after 1997/98 and equal with 1982/83 and well above 4th), then it stands to reason that the probability of it being the highest ever across the country are going to be close to 1.

If you now think that it is indeed “that it is possible to have a national record without having component records”, perhaps you should go and update your blog with that information

Janama, you have been sadly deceived. The yellow line is not “an approximation showing the slow down in the rise in OHCA since the Argo buoys were introduced in 2003” It is a bit of crayon drawing across a graph.

It is not even straight. It is pretending to be a trend line, but it has been bent in two places to make sure that it fits within error bars on the figure. It is so obviously a fraud that it leaves me wondering how anyone, but a chump can be deceived by it.

Given that it is Anthony Cox’s evidence in chief in this post on OLO, I think it demonstrates Cox’s complete incompetence with assessment of data.