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Are the Climate Commission's claims of a hot summer correct? : Comments

By Anthony Cox, published 12/3/2013

How can there be a continent wide summer record when no part of the continent had a record?

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Agronomist - Here's the yellow line in context! (http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/02/25/fact-check-for-andrew-glickson-ocean-heat-has-paused-too/)
"Sure looks like a pause to me, especially after steep rises in OHC from 1997-2003. Note the highlighted period in yellow:" NOTE! highlighted period! NOT recreated flat line, NOT trend line, but highlighted period - they even used a highlighter pen - as you do.

" I think it demonstrates Cox’s complete incompetence with assessment of data."

No - it demonstrates your stupidity!

Now why don't you stop being pedantic and address my last post for what I really said. I said the CC report was false and demonstrated why - do you approve of the BoM giving out false and misleading information? If you do you are NOT a scientist, you are NOT even a reputable academic you are just another warmist with an axe to grind.
Posted by Janama, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 8:15:14 PM
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http://tamino.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/ohc1.jpg

There's the data.

Oh look...and there's Anthony Watts' flat yellow line.

Or you might prefer this?

http://tamino.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/ohc2.jpg
Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 8:52:33 PM
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Hmmm.
When the umpire gives you out, you are supposed to leave the crease.
It's just not cricket ...
Posted by Alan Austin, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 9:18:58 PM
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Agronomist; little yellow line is an approximation; I have linked to a Willis analysis of it above, look at it; data is there; for the 1993-2003 data the increase is approx. +0.1C (11 years); the Error is about 0.02C, R2 0.8309. For 2003-2012 the increase is about +0.02C. (10 years). The error is about 0.01C, R2 0.5597. That is not quite flat but close enough at statistical significance. That blows AGW out of the water.

And congratulations on your interpretation of Ken's post; cherry picked in the usual tendentious manner of AGW supporters ignoring completely that Eastern Australia was the least anomalously warm it has ever been; the MDB nearly the same and SouthEastern Australia thereabouts; in fact the tale is one of stark contrast between the West and East of Australia.

If you can't get that right mate your worth as a constructive troll is severely diminished; do better. The only reason I'm here is to learn something from you smart types, not take your snark.

Now, how did BOM achieve its hottest ever summer? David Stockwell suggests a spatial weighting thus for January:

States Anomaly Area Contribution

NSW/Act 2.79 0.104 0.29016
NT 1.88 0.175 0.329
Qld 2 0.225 0.45
SA 1.88 0.127 0.23876
Tas 0.52 0.009 0.00468
Vic 1.28 0.03 0.0384
WA 1.23 0.33 0.4059
Weighted Average 1.7569
Australia(BoM) 1.76

Do something useful and ask your mates whether that is right instead of hanging about assuming some sort of superiority
Posted by cohenite, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 9:28:54 PM
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You know what, I've had a change of heart. I think you guys are right. I reckon the university trained meteorologists, climatologists and data analysts working at the BOM should be sacked (because they don't know science) and the whole exercise should be turned over to the rank amateurs, failed economic statisticians, retired school teachers and lawyers who obviously know a lot better.

By the way, by your mates Stockwells calculations, was it a 'hot summer', or was it a cool summer?

Did he use an econometric analysis again?
Posted by Bugsy, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 9:59:05 PM
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Ah - yet another Tamino trick - he has more tricks than Mann.

What is being discussed is Ocean Heat Content. A chart was offered from NOAA - http://oceans.pmel.noaa.gov/ - It shows anomaly trends prior to and after the introduction of the Argo Buoy data in 2003. As they say, prior to 2003 the data was from XBTs, CTDs, moorings, and other sources. Yet the Argo bouys are the most comprehensive ocean temperature measuring system we have ever had, and when they were introduced their data showed a significant change in the trend.

HERE IS THE CHANGE IN THE TREND!

http://users.tpg.com.au/johnsay1/Stuff/trends.PNG

This is the science - the rest is typical warmist deflection and slight of hand.

Why do you guys hate people and the planet so much that you pray everyday for more and more warming so your insane deranged ideas can become manifest!
Posted by Janama, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 10:04:48 PM
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