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The greatest human impact of all : Comments

By Julian Cribb, published 18/1/2013

While climate change has grabbed the media and policy limelight there is another, far larger, human impact on ourselves, on Planet Earth and on all life in it.

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DavidG, have you left school yet?

Your naivety, in accepting Julian’s baseless assertions, and your immature propensity to insult other participants of OLO is a real giveaway.

Julian’s ploy of saying that there is evidence, but it is somewhere else, is like the AGW Fraud backers’s tactic of “the majority of the world’s scientists” say so, when in fact not one of them are prepared to say that there is any science showing a measurable effect of human emissions on climate.

The simple fact is that they have no science, or authority, and neither does Julian. He sounds like a World Wildlife Fund advertisement.
Posted by Leo Lane, Monday, 21 January 2013 2:52:06 PM
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DavidG. Your propensity for insults, derision, name calling etc for all those here on OLO with opinions, well founded or not, that differ from yours, undercuts all and any argument you put forward. Can't you see that? As Leo Lane accurately observes, have you left the year 9 school yard yet?

Renew. I am one of those who have, after many many years of following 'saint Carson', have questioned much of her 'science' or, as some have attributed 'junk science'.

On the other hand, her efforts and lifelong work did indeed engender a beneficial shift in the existing 'industrial/agribusiness paradigm. A shift that was much needed and has proven beneficial in many and unexpected ways.

How, therefore, can those who follow her lead possibly campain against the introduction of GM modification of food? It is a true example of cognitive dissonance.

I grow increasingly concerned with, not just the sheer volume of regulation, it's inept application and increasing impact on freedom of choice/speech.

I see Julian as just another of those commentators whipping up another 'panic/scare campain which, if allowed to run to its inevitable conclusion, will result in a further raft of regulation with huge expense, detrimental unintended consequences and a further erosion of liberties.
Posted by Prompete, Monday, 21 January 2013 3:21:30 PM
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A fine contribution, Julian Cribb, followed by the usual predictable crap responses from the Panglossian brigade chanting, "All is for the best in the best of all possible worlds." Yeah, right. As for what can be done? Nothing while we elect people who are totally unqualified in anything except legal issues to govern us. Our environment is protected by a man who knows nothing about the environment. Agricultural decisions are made by someone who knows nothing about agriculture, the list of incompetent holders of responsible portfolios is long and complete. Not a single politician knows diddley squat about anything except how to manipulate voters in order to be re-elected. That's the extent of their expertise, and we wonder why it's all going belly up. It's too late to do anything. We're stuffed; on our own; its up to each individual to prepare for what's coming.
Posted by ybgirp, Monday, 21 January 2013 3:35:04 PM
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Ybirp, please don't startle the mules!

Prompete and Leo don't like those who condemn our corrupt capitalist world and its worship of greed and war and they will try to kill the messenger with infantile insults if they get half the chance. Fortunately, I am immune to such childishness.

Meanwhile, the Yanks get on with their HAARP experimentation, their imperial agenda of invasion and occupation and plunder, their support of the barbaric rogue nation of Israel, and the tricking of their sycophantic Allies of which Australia is one, etc.

Heads In The Sand, boys, is their motto!
Posted by David G, Monday, 21 January 2013 4:19:22 PM
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I like you, David G, and a few others too.... very few.
Posted by ybgirp, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 12:56:42 PM
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Actually, Prompete, I am arguing the opposite to what you say. In my detailed study of this issue I conclude that regulation is very unlikely ever to solve this, by attempting to control 83,000 chemicals and an infinite number of mixtures, one at a time. I am indeed arguing for personal liberty - the liberty of informed, and well-educated consumers and citizens to refuse to have themselves and their babies poinsoned by the mindless release of 10 million tonnes of carcinogens and toxins. You and Leo see nothing wrong with this, apparently, which is your privilege, but is not likely to earn you any respect or credence. If you doubt what I say, and have the guts, I challenge you to go and have your blood tested.
Posted by JulianC, Tuesday, 22 January 2013 1:57:17 PM
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