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The greatest human impact of all : Comments

By Julian Cribb, published 18/1/2013

While climate change has grabbed the media and policy limelight there is another, far larger, human impact on ourselves, on Planet Earth and on all life in it.

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The following book is an interesting read for those who are concerned about chemical exposure and health, and the vested interests profiting from unnecessary chemical exposure.

Slow Death by Rubber Duck: How the Toxic Chemistry of Everyday Life Affects Our Health by Rick Smith, Bruce Lourie

As with many things these days, governments have failed to act in out best interests.
Posted by Candide, Friday, 18 January 2013 3:26:57 PM
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halduel
duly noted - tnks for that..

Chris Lewis
the problem with Julian's arguments is that they are dismissable because they are so obviously unsourced exaggerations. If Julian wants anyone to pay attention he should put some work into his stuff, especially on this site.

Candide
the problem is that the temperatures are meant to be much higher. Greenhouse warnings are now more than 20 years old and the forecasts have been for much higher temperatures than the ones we are getting now - much, much higher. No one has denied that the earth is in a climatically warm patch.. the question has always been why, and can we make any useful forecast from the theory?
Posted by Curmudgeon, Friday, 18 January 2013 3:56:16 PM
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Cheryl. You forgot another element to your list. Refer to an expert organisation without vested interest in the topic in question. For example, he could have quoted the World Bank (you know, the 4 to 6 degree climate experts.)

Candide. Just a little caution with declaring the hottest recorded thingy. Check the late 1800's and 1930's for temp records. Or the MWP or the RWP.
Posted by Prompete, Friday, 18 January 2013 4:02:04 PM
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Cheryl, thanks for your workmanlike analysis of Julian’s nonsense. I was offhand in my dismissal of it, but I found the result of your application to the task to be quite elevating.
Posted by Leo Lane, Friday, 18 January 2013 4:28:56 PM
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Leo, Cheryl et al. The scientific and governmental sources for all the statements made in this opinion piece are given in an 8000-word essay I have written. If anyone knows a way to cite 70-odd sources in a 1000-word oped, I'd like them to tell me! However if anyone wants to see the sources and evidence (and is not one of those allergic to peer-reviewed science), I'll be happy to send them a copy. This is too important an issue to be diverted by tendentious claims of 'no evidence'. There is an absolute mountain of it, openly available to anyone who wants to look for it.
Posted by JulianC, Friday, 18 January 2013 5:48:38 PM
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"If Julian wants anyone to pay attention he should put some work into his stuff, especially on this site," says Curmudgeon.

Curmudgeon, most people on this site when they left university actually left it. Cheryl obviously didn't and neither did you.

You appear to want comments and articles to be written as if those who write them are undergraduates jumping through academic hoops. Do you also want footnotes and a bibliography?

This is a forum for educated adults although, looking at the comments by a few, it falls short in some cases. Most people know that we are poisoning ourselves and our planet and don't need pages of references and footnotes to prove it.

Please put your university days behind you. You are becoming tedious!
Posted by David G, Friday, 18 January 2013 5:56:40 PM
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