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Wrist-slapping unlikely to halt Israeli military sales to Australia : Comments

By Henry Lebovic, published 19/12/2012

What bearing does the fact that Israel is one of Australia's biggest arms suppliers have on our foreign policy?

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Shadow Minister, these are two sources copied directly from Google. Are you sure you know what Google is?
Posted by David G, Thursday, 20 December 2012 11:36:23 AM
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DG,

I do know what Google is, and how to sort out reliable sources from whack jobs.

Here is a site Google produce that could help you:

http://www.stopabductions.com/
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 20 December 2012 12:16:32 PM
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Shadow Minister, I don't know of any site that could help you.

You challenged me and I proved you wrong. A bit of humble pie from you would be appreciated but I can guarantee it won't be forthcoming!
Posted by David G, Thursday, 20 December 2012 12:41:27 PM
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DG,

Showing that you can find a few whack jobs that share your fantasy, does not prove me wrong.

Casualty figures from reliable sources, plus some evidence that these were the result of actions by the US would suffice.

I am interested to see how you remove all responsibility from China in the Korean war.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 20 December 2012 12:56:22 PM
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Shadow Minister, you've used 'whack' a number of times in your comments.

Obviously, that is your main problem!
Posted by David G, Thursday, 20 December 2012 1:01:24 PM
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Dear davidf,

The question you have posed is both pertinent and legitimate.

If I may I would like to explore it a little further although much of the following will be a personal perspective so make of it what you will.

So why does Israel attract what appears to be special condemnation and retalitory action when there are other, far more powerful nations with records of oppression at least as bad if not significantly worse?

While I see the question as legitimate I don't think it is a valid argument that one must be seen to condemn the worst transgressor and make ones way through the list until reaching a country like Israel. While there were indeed quite racist regimes in Africa during South Africa's apartheid regime, and there were massacres significantly larger for instance than the Soweto death toll, the South African government was certainly deserving of our rebuke and our rejection of sporting, diplomatic and economic ties. The fact that we didn't extend the same to all other deserving regimes surely doesn't mean our actions should not have been deployed.

That being said I'm not sure, given the world's current geo-political state, the argument “Israel is a minor player when it comes to oppression.” can be sustained. Where else in the world is there a people who currently have such a high proportion of their number existing as refugees, whose population has its movements so tightly restricted, who are under collective punishment for democratically electing a government that offended the occupying power, who recently suffered a crippling blockage designed to keep them just above starvation level, whose leaders are systematically assassinated, whose skies are constantly filled with drones, whose territory is constantly suffers armed incursions and who periodically suffer brutal attacks from overwhelming superior weaponry.

The Chinese oppression of the Tibetan people would certainly be up there as is the situation in the North West Territories of Pakistan. But perhaps it is my lack of imagination or general knowledge but I'm hard pressed to find many situations that equate with what is happening to the Palestinian people.
Posted by csteele, Thursday, 20 December 2012 6:17:48 PM
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