The National Forum   Donate   Your Account   On Line Opinion   Forum   Blogs   Polling   About   
The Forum - On Line Opinion's article discussion area



Syndicate
RSS/XML


RSS 2.0

Main Articles General

Sign In      Register

The Forum > Article Comments > Rediscovering prudence > Comments

Rediscovering prudence : Comments

By Clara Geoghegan, published 10/12/2012

The suicide of the London nurse, Jacintha Saldahna, who took the prank call from Aussie radio presenters, Mel Greig and Michael Christian has shocked the world.

  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. Page 3
  5. 4
  6. 5
  7. 6
  8. All
Agreed David G! Pranks are childish but in this case the DJs were not expecting to succeed and there was no malice involved.

I don't accept that a person of sound mind takes their life because of a failure that has no dire consequences or because they've been made a bit of a fool. If so, 75% of us would be in a cemetary

I'm pretty confident that contrary to what the Hospital Management is saying that both nurses involved would have certainly been 'counselled' over the incident and may have been facing further action. IMO that is the 'crime' the DJs committed. Their prank put a couple of innocents in a position that compromised their employment.

While this, along with humiliation, may have been the trigger for this woman's assumed suicide, other circumstances in her life must have been most unfortunate to be in that state of mind. That is, of course if it was suicide and not some other cause.

Whatever the case - all sympathy to the deceased woman's family - especially her children who will need comfort & support. Also a little for the 2 DJs who are undoubtedly horrified and distressed that a seemingly harmless bit of nonsense has probably contributed to a death.
Posted by divine_msn, Monday, 10 December 2012 12:17:37 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
"Where are the Aristotelian values today??, an earlier poster asked. Aristotle had ethics. Where are today's ethics and morals?? Do we need to look closer at the self?? Where is our compassion and sense of moral duty??"

I for one believe that over recent years we have raised today's youth and for some, our young adults also, without a word, for the most, those of us posting here understand, and understood in our younger years quite clearly, this would be the word NO.

Parents and teachers fear saying this word for a reason I know not what.

No teaches people that there are boundaries. Parenting and education today, primarily due to political correctness, seems to fear saying this word.

If you don't articulate NO to young people, they have no sense of wrong or at the very least an ability to question the actions they intend.

A very sad state of affairs.

We will probably never know the reason for this suicide and I for one do not want to know.

I think it is time everyone grew up and learned the NO word that little bit more, perhaps then there will be less crime, less inane and stupid behavious and some will learn to take responsibility for their own actions.

Here's hoping, but not waiting.
Posted by Geoff of Perth, Monday, 10 December 2012 1:04:06 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Someone asked where the line should be drawn. Well, for starters the privacy of patients in hospital should never be violated. Second, ordinary members of the public should not be interviewed and their remarks publicised by the media without their prior knowledge and consent.

The media spin is blaming the dead nurse for upsetting the shock jocks. The victim is blamed for upsetting the tender sensibilities of the arrogant jocks. That is incredible and disgusting spin that should be criticised and rejected.

Rather than spin its way around it, the station should properly admit fault and apologise. No excuses. That is the responsible and civil thing to do.
Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 10 December 2012 2:28:59 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
Geoff wants the 'no ' word in vogue

'If you don't articulate NO to young people, they have no sense of wrong or at the very least an ability to question the actions they intend.'

The problem then becomes that people have to admit moral relativism is a monumental flop. People's pride and ego triump over commonsense. God given morality is written on the conscience of man and unfortunately whited out by social engineers.
Posted by runner, Monday, 10 December 2012 2:36:35 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
"God given morality is written on the conscience of man and unfortunately whited out by social engineers."

Sorry Runner, but no 'God' has ever given morality to any man. Religion is more morally bankrupt than any radio station and it's employee's.

Stick with the story and leave 'your' fantasy in your own head where it belongs.
Posted by Geoff of Perth, Monday, 10 December 2012 2:57:27 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
I can't accept the premise of the entire article, contained within the first sentence.

"Due to"? We don't know that.

These pranks occur all the time. As sad as it is that this lady has ended her life, no one could've predicted that outcome.

At the very least, we need to avoid simplistic blame here because as Andrew Bolt wrote in today's Herald Sun, the original actions weren't made more or less wrong because of the nurse's actions afterwards. Either it was wrong and/or in bad taste to begin with or it wasn't. Perhaps it was. But we shouldn't create a scapegoat, we should carefully examine the underlying issues.

And another point is this. IF the DJs are to be considered complicit in this woman's death, then surely everyone who A. Forwarded it on or B. Laughed at it and every media organisation who replayed it must surely take some level of responsibility too!
Posted by Trav, Monday, 10 December 2012 4:39:15 PM
Find out more about this user Recommend this comment for deletion Return to top of page Return to Forum Main Page Copy comment URL to clipboard
  1. Pages:
  2. 1
  3. 2
  4. Page 3
  5. 4
  6. 5
  7. 6
  8. All

About Us :: Search :: Discuss :: Feedback :: Legals :: Privacy