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By Kellie Tranter, published 13/11/2012

And who could we expect our representatives to tango with at the Wiretapper’s Ball?

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Just who would the Civil Liberty mob want on the committee. Good Law abiding citizens overseeing the gathering of intelligence by lawful Law enforcement Authorities. Hmmm...

Lets see; Leaders of all the Bikie Gangs, A few Judges/Barristers & Legal people that are the Mr Big's in the Drug & Paedophile trade, Heads of any radical Muslim groups & The heads of the Russian & Chinese Triads should be included as well. We wouldn't want to be seen as racist. Would we?

Yes, That should about do it. I feel safer already. Don't you?
Posted by Jayb, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 9:44:26 AM
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While it might be a little inconvenient, and embarrassing, if all my personal peccadilloes, were common knowledge?
It can't be worse than sharing your most private moments, thoughts and images, with the whole world, via Facebook etc.
We have CCTV in many public places, which along with better lighting has made us marginally safer.
A very few see this as some sort of invasion of privacy!
Absolutely absurd, given, there never ever is any element of actual privacy in a public place!
And cyber space is a very public place!
I find this Author's musings quite an interesting juxtaposition?
On one hand, she seems to defend illegal/immoral hackers?
Yet, appears to critique official lawful application of similar technology?
We are at war, with an enemy who would cheerfully and without any compunction whatsoever, exterminate us; and indeed, even their own, who have the temerity, to simply disagree with their fanatical fundamentalism!
Just like that young Girl from Pakistan, who now lies in a British hospital recovering from a very serious head wound.
Or the Pakistani wife, simply condemned by her Taliban husband, without so much as a single shred of actual evidence, and summarily executed, kneeling, by a bullet to the back of the head!
Judging by the battered Wife's evocation to get on with it, the poor woman saw her assassination as blissful relief, at the hands of a domestic tyrant?
And some of these domestic despots could now be living amongst us? Advocating on behalf of the most brutal and fanatical tyrants the world is ever likely to see or experience?
And if the perceived, if not actual, loss of some personal cyber space privacy, exposes and "eliminates" any of these animals, then on balance, it has to be a good thing?
As for who should be on the committee making said decisions?
What's wrong with the very independent Judges, we have come to rely on for their even handed and balanced judgement, like that on public display, when the judiciary, almost to a generic man, condemned the govt's handling of Dr Haneef or Mz Rue etc/etc/etc!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 11:10:10 AM
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The securocrats' mishandling of Dr Haneef was made possible by government foolishly giving them the power to do so. When powers are misused the answer in a society valuing its freedom is to strike them out of the hands of those who misuse them, not give them more and more powers. This should have been obvious from at least as far back as the day of the Hilton bombing and the relentless 13-year harassment of Tim Anderson by the secret political police who were much more likely to have planted the bomb than Mr Anderson.

Their latest victims are Tamil refugees given an "adverse security report" without any scrutiny of whether the report is merely part of a policy of protecting trade relations with Sri Lanka.

Special liberties for secret police are in inverse ratio to civil liberty for the population, and terrorists are not the only threat to our freedom.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 12:24:58 PM
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Emperorjulian: Tamil refugees given an "adverse security report" without any scrutiny.

Are you saying that Australia shouldn't have sent the last lot of Tamil refugees home because they might go to prison?

Seems I remember that they hijacked a fishing boat & crew, threw the crew overboard, then sailed for Australia, so that they could be economically better off like most Tamil illegal immigrants who try to come here do.

That had nothing to do with intelligence agencies, That was just plain Police work.
Posted by Jayb, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 12:54:25 PM
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Jay b I was not referring to those Tamils and it was quite right that they be sent home.

See Lateline item at http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2012/s3567008.htm about Tamils in indefinite detention because of an adverse secret police (ASIO) report.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 4:24:14 PM
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Interesting. The guy looks more Assameese than Tamil. Tamils are long & lanky & black as ink with long straight dark brown hair. Very close to Aboriginal. I wonder what language he speaks. When it comes to Indian peoples, they are the greatest con artists you will ever meet. (3 years in S.E. Asia) These are a people that live to con someone out of something. It's their natural way of life. Nothing to do with racism or anything like that. It's just the way it is for them.

If A.S.I.O. says they are unsafe to be allowed into Australia then they are unsafe. Let them nominate another country. There are plenty of Indian people in Malaysia for instance. Or is Australia a better economic proposition for them.
Posted by Jayb, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 5:41:34 PM
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