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Winning not lecturing : Comments

By Graham Young, published 22/10/2012

Loved overseas, but relatively unloved at home, Julia Gillard's lecture probably still improved her position.

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Agree with EmperorJulian, Saw and heard the whole speech, and thought, not before time.
This piece of memorable oratory will go down in history; and has already had more than three million online hits!
Comparatively, Rudd's memorable Apology, only created around two hundred thousand?
Again, and there is a very shrewd operator, somewhere in Labour's ranks, the early mid year budget update, will put the economy front and centre once more.
And why wouldn't you, if indeed, we are blessed with the best performing economy in the western world?
It's said you invariably get the parliament you deserve, and that means we deserve Tony and the, negative central coalition; and the return of a relabelled work choices; and, vote buying welfare for the better off?
With diminishing revenue, it is going to be interesting to see how he pays for it?
An austerity program perhaps, that all but shuts down discretionary spending, and with it, the domestic economy?
If Tony is authentic, I believe he will see to it that we once again use our extremely abundant energy resources; all of them, to encourage the relocation and or rapid rebuild of a manufacturing based economy. Don't see Labour dilettantes doing it!?
As for carbon?
What's is wrong with simply creating a gradually lowering cap, and only taxing that part which remains above the cap, with progressively punitive imposts?
Besides, a roll back is not going to progress through the Senate, even after a double dissolution?
A double dissolution, might well work to disadvantage the coalition; but particularly, if they have kicked in an austerity program, to try and get all the bad medicine down our collective throats, before their parliamentary mid term.
I might be fulsome, in my admiration of our very first female PM; but, that doesn't necessarily mean I'm going to vote for her, or any other party hack?
But will reflect on all the issues, and then vote, wait for it, for direct action going forward!
Rhrosty.
Posted by Rhrosty, Monday, 22 October 2012 1:17:45 PM
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'reproductive rights'

What, you mean abortion rights? Lets call a spade a spade, and steer clear of the Orwellian doublespeak.

'Attacking or hating a couple of men is not misandry.'

But funnily enough not agreeing with any woman in a position of authority or even just maintaining and promoting a lifestyle with traditional gender roles seems to be labelled misogyny.

I cant wait to see how long this ban on sexism and misogyn, applied universally, will last.

The score is currently 2-0 in favour of the Coalition.

1. Goal one in the 20th minute...

http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/393125/20121011/julia-gillard-labor-denounce-sexist-offensive-joke.htm

2. Goal 2 in the 34th minute...

http://www.smh.com.au/national/anger-over-bgrade-porn-star-jibe-20121022-280ai.html
Posted by Houellebecq, Monday, 22 October 2012 2:34:11 PM
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For a woman who has stabbed four male leaders of the party in the back to get the top job to whine about sexism is really a bit rich.

She wouldn't know real sexism if she fell over it because we old broads fought a war to stop things like women being sacked because they got married, or being forced to give up their babies because they were not married.

Gillard is happy to jail men, women and children who have really escaped woman hating thugs but can't bear any criticism.
Posted by Marilyn Shepherd, Monday, 22 October 2012 2:48:07 PM
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McReal: "Attacking or hating a couple of men is not misandry. "

Granted, that is insufficient reason to call Julia Gillard a misandrist, just as it is erroneous to call Tony Abbott a misogynist.

On the basis of her many romantic affairs, perhaps a more appropriate label would be the antonym of misandry, namely, "philandry, the fondness, love, or admiration of men", according to Wikipedia.
Posted by Raycom, Monday, 22 October 2012 3:06:41 PM
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Raycom,
The philandry aspect did cross my mind.

However, I think Tony Abbott is on shakier ground given several of his past general comments about women:

"While I think men and women are equal, they are also different and I think it's inevitable and I don't think it's a bad thing at all that we always have, say, more women doing things like physiotherapy and an enormous number of women simply doing housework."

"It would be folly to expect that women would ever approach equal representation in a large number of areas simply because their aptitudes, their abilities and interests are different for physiological reasons."

"I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... it [their virginity] is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say."

"I won't be rushing out to get my daughters vaccinated [for cervical cancer], maybe that's because I'm a cruel, callow, callous, heartless bastard but, look, I won't be."

"Abortion is the easy way out. It’s hardly surprising that people should choose the most convenient exit from awkward situations."
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Marilyn Shepherd, Mon, 22 October 2:48pm,
there were only male leaders before Gillard. She didn't seek the leadership on the basis of gender; she got it handed to her b/c the incumbent was dysfunction as a leader.
Posted by McReal, Monday, 22 October 2012 3:51:50 PM
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Australia has been extraordinarily tolerant of our first female PM .. unmarried but living in the Lodge; taking Tim across the world with her; making / unmaking promises and numerous policy stumbles a more experienced politician would not have made.

Her confected outrage and charges of misogyny are both hypocritical (given her support of Slipper) and a smokescreen to mask the bad news about corrections to Swan's poorly thought-out budget
Posted by traveloz, Monday, 22 October 2012 4:10:59 PM
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