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Why I'm still a Catholic : Comments

By Geraldine Doogue, published 10/8/2012

I've come to believe that the world beyond the institutional church is kinder, gentler, full of more conscientious ethics, values and care for others, than the institutional Church.

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Well Geraldine the strings are fraying, the problem is those who claim to "still being a Catholic" are unwittingly offering support, and while still "Attached" all the criticism in the world will count for nothing, because those who are committing the crimes will say they have complete support of the "faithful" and in their perverted brains think they have done nothing wrong.
If you do decide to cut the strings please be clear why you are doing it, then you may think about going back over some of the stories that embellished the "niceness" of the Catholic Church.
Posted by lockhartlofty, Sunday, 12 August 2012 4:01:55 PM
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Apart from some South American Catholic offshoots, namely Liberation Theology, the universal church is anything but radical, it's primary function being to reconcile adherents with the rewards of the next world, thereby taking their minds off this world. They're not called the Roman Catholics for nothing. Jesus was indeed a radical and it's marvelous the way his teachings have been brought into the mainstream as the mainstay of modern decadent lifestyles--the pretty frocks and the peace be with you andf all the other hypocritical bunk.
Like I said above, the institutional church has been parodying Christ'
s teachings ever since.
What Graham fails to mention is the radicalism of the modern church is just lip-service--Catholic and Protestant.
Posted by Squeers, Sunday, 12 August 2012 8:54:01 PM
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...What Geraldine struggles to understand; or acknowledge as a fundamental problem in the Roman Catholic Church, is the historical structure of the “Episcopal polity”. It is this lack of democracy which allows the free hand of Bishops to stifle debate and hide crimes against the congregation.

...This circumstance is impossible under the democratic rule of “Congregationalism”, which is a feature of many post reformation protestant Churches, (including modern-day Evangelical and other non-denominational Churches).

...It is this structure which makes Catholics envious, but as Geraldine attests, is personally confusing and impossible for most Catholics to break-free, let alone reform: (Thus subscribing to deep seated resentments vented by the many posters above).

…The structure of the Roman Catholic Church is undemocratic by nature, and deserves to fail; as is evidenced by its refusal to deal effectively with obvious criminality embedded in the hierarchy; a criminality which the congregation is powerless to deal with!
Posted by diver dan, Sunday, 12 August 2012 9:22:41 PM
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...Second sentence clarity...

...It is this structure (Congregationalism), which makes Catholics envious, but as Geraldine attests,(Catholicism) is personally confusing and impossible for most Catholics to break-free, let alone reform: (Thus subscribing to deep seated resentments vented by the many posters above).
Posted by diver dan, Sunday, 12 August 2012 9:53:26 PM
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Squeers, there is no way you can support a claim such as "it's [the Roman Catholic Church's] primary function being to reconcile adherents with the rewards of the next world, thereby taking their minds off this world." For starters, it doesn't make sense. "Reconcile"? In what way does one have to be "reconciled with the rewards of the next world"? If you believe in them you get them. Reconciliation has no place in a concept of punishment or reward in another world.

And the Roman Catholic Church most often gets accused by many, including you in some of your posts, of spending too much time wielding worldly power.

It certainly doesn't eschew this world. Go to every major city in Europe, or North America, or South America, or Australasia,or Africa and much of Asia and you will find some of the largest and best hospitals are owned and run by the Catholic Church. You will find the same thing goes for schools, and to a lesser extent universities. This is an organisation that is very much engaged with this world as a way of changing it. They will also be one of the organisations engaged with the poor and those in distress.

In a lot of ways Catholics are more engaged with the secular world than Protestants, and than many secularists.
Posted by GrahamY, Sunday, 12 August 2012 11:02:13 PM
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Contrary to what the author and certain commenters assert, the teachings of the Catholic Church do not give anyone, including bishops and priests, the right to misbehave or to cover-up misbehaviour.

Certain commenters have labelled the Church corrupt because of the failings of a small minority of its clergy. It would be interesting to see whether those commenters would label the Australian Defence Force corrupt because certain of its officers have gone out of their way to cover up rapes by ADF members.
Posted by Raycom, Monday, 13 August 2012 12:06:09 AM
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