you could rightly assume that the vast majority of those into organic foods also believe the gw myth. Green religion is full of myths and moralising which is why they hate Christianity so much because it teaches the only righteousness available to anyone is through Christ.Funny with all these pesticides how much longer most live these days, a fact often ignored.

Sorry guy’s but here’s one for you, the Rodale Institute has been conducting a long-term comparative Farming Systems Trial which started in 1981, 31 years to date, when it was already abundantly clear that industrialising nature was creating far more problems than it solved.

The Rodale Institute began documented research comparing organically fertilised fields and conventionally fertilised fields.

It’s the longest running comparative study of its kind in the world.
What did it find?

Organic yields match conventional yields
Organic outperforms conventional in years of drought
Organic farming systems build rather than deplete soil organic matter, making it a more sustainable system
Organic farming uses 45% less energy and is more efficient
Conventional systems produce 40% more greenhouse gases, and
Organic farming systems are more profitable than conventional.

Can't argue with that!

Geoff

the Institute is not an independent or academic scientific institution, its a spruiker for all things organic. Look at its website, for goodness sake.

you'll have to do better than that.

Dear Runner,

<<you could rightly assume that the vast majority of those into organic foods also believe the gw myth>>

Sorry to disappoint you, I believe in the first but not in the second, they are completely separate issues. Organic foods are very compatible with religion and there are also many Christians who believe in organic food, obviously not as a substitute for Christ.

Actually, yes you can Geoff.
1) The only reference I can find that makes any sort of claim similar to what you have written is in a book chapter. And it only mention maize and soybeans in Pennsylvania. You should really take a look at what constitutes a 'drought' in Pennsylvania. I very much doubt that it is the same condition in Africa.

2)I did also find someone who critically reviewed some of the Rodale Institutes work:
Title: The potential for organic agriculture to feed the world is being oversold.
Author: Gianessi L.
Source: Outlooks on Pest Management Volume: 20 Issue: 1 Pages: 4-5 DOI: 10.1564/20feb02 Published: 2009
Abstract: For many years the conventional view has been that a widespread conversion to organic farming practices would mean starvation around the world because the organic methods would result in considerably less crop yield in comparison to current farming methods that rely on pesticides to control damaging pest populations. This conventional view has been challenged recently by advocates of organic agriculture, such as the Rodale Institute, who claim that organic agriculture can feed the world with comparable crop yields. These advocates cite articles that have compiled research results that compare yields between organic test plots and pesticide-treated plots. They claim that these research results show comparable yields and therefore conclude that organic agriculture could be adopted to feed the world. The most recent article to compile these research studies was published by researchers from the University of Michigan, USA. This paper emphasizes that the studies cited in these compilations shows serious misinterpretations of the experiments leading to the unwarranted conclusion that organic agriculture can feed the world. The paper presents the African experience as a preview of trying to feed the world with this method.

Consider it arguable!

Chemical-based agriculture has had a significant impact on countries like India. The Green revolution brought much hope and was seen as a runaway success. In it's wake though it has left land degradation, poisoned groundwater and a dearth of knowledge of ancient farming....but times are changing and many Indian farmers are reverting to old methods.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=104708731