In that case JF you know how most of our so called marine research is conducted in a tank out the back of the office. You don't get sea sick in the office.

You'll also know that most of anything that could be called "ocean research" is conducted with in spitting distance of one of 2 establishments on reef islands, so researched out, that most of it is as a swimming pool.

These places where researcher people can talk rubbish to each other, & pretend they are doing something.

Part of the problem is population, but part, even from the early post WW11 era, is that the people are no longer enough for their lifestyle of the past. They no longer make larger canoes, & have lost much of their navigation skills, or their courage.

I have escorted fleets of canoes in the Solomons on traditional fishing/gathering voyages they no longer make without help. I have also assisted in "bride raids" which no longer happen, with the obvious result in the gene pool.

I have also seen a hundred canoes pulled up on an atoll beach, where in the 70s there would have been no more than a dozen. This increase in canoes was reflected in a similar increase in housing.

Yes it is a pity we waste our research dollar in such useless areas, when there is much real stuff to do.

Yes Hasbeen and you aptly describe the so called 'research' and people I am up against with my long term experience in the real world and no academic qualification.

What get's me is that solutions involve opportunities with various and interesting win-win outcome for all.

Never give up and take every opportunity and finish the task started, and if there is a problem then fix it, has all come from my mentor's. Thus my dropping in on OLO from time to time as thread subject permits.

So much is being lost yet so much could be gained, including via various viable business and employment in new industry regenerating the environment instead of destroying it.

But they focus on an NBN so people can see their doctor, while a CO2 tax is imposed to top up their coffers, resulting in no new export productivity whatsoever.

Peace and security is really under threat more than ever worldwide as more and more people become desperate affording available food and shelter.

I hope the UN can comprehend and sort out the nonsense from reality before too late.

Have a good weekend.