Over the centuries, China has produced many pioneers, and I would venture that one will find a reasonably successful Chinese community in almost every corner of the globe. These pioneers would have been seeking a better life for themselves, and a chance to send money home to support their immediate and extended families. Not all dreams would be realized, then or now, but many have succeeded and brought family or bride to a new and better life. Some will have failed, but then this has always been a part of pioneering history - sometimes because of fear or prejudice, sometimes from competition for a livelihood.

These pioneers have contributed culture and new ideas, as well as commerce, to their adopted lands, thereby enhancing, and often being instrumental in development. Also, as with so many pioneers, their contribution is often not properly or fully recognised or acknowledged.

Undeniably there have been some sad episodes in Oz' history, but I feel today we have a flourishing, tolerant (for the most part) and diversified multicultural community, not least including a vibrant and successful Chinese Australian component. I would venture that quite a few million residents of China today wouldn't mind changing places - just an observation.

Oz has not always treated its immigrants or its indigenous well, but then Mao managed to cause quite a few million of his countrymen to starve to death, and even to resort to cannibalism to survive a little longer.

Our greatest failing today is our failure with our remote indigenous communities. I venture that no immigrant of recent times, Chinese or otherwise, will be experiencing anything like the hardship being faced by those communities, and conversely will be being afforded every opportunity to succeed - and I'm sure many more would be hoping for similar opportunities, if only they could get here.

So, bury the hatchet, and see Oz as it is today, good and bad, and feel sorry for the millions elsewhere who are so much worse off.

DreamOn
"Thus, Australia is a rogue state, and given what some individuals did to the "Original Australians," one can but conclude that if they in turn were forced to suffer and die at the hands of the superior Japanese fighters, then they most certainly well deserved it and as a whole this country is lucky to have gotten off as lightly as it did."

Just beneath the veneer of lefty righteousness is a vengeance unparalleled.

If the Japanese did win there probably wouldn't be any 'original Australians' left. On the converse, there have been many successful 'original Australians' under Anglo-Saxon rule.

If the British were really genocidal maniacs, as the deranged DreamOn claims, we would not be experiencing today a "renaissance" of sorts in Aboriginal culture as there would be no Aborigines left. Given their ridiculously massive technological and military superiority, the early British settlers could have conceivably wiped out the Aborigines if that really was their intention.

The unhinged DreamOn claims that the British settlement of Australia ruined "successful" Aboriginal society. While the arrival of the British certainly disrupted Aboriginal society, it is highly debatable how "successful" their society really was. Despite the modern tendency to romanticize the pre-1788 Aboriginal way of life, the truth is that life for the average Aborigine was short, harsh and brutal. "Noble savage" myths have largely blinded us to the infanticide, rape, paedophilia, terrible violence, perpetual tribal warfare, and disease that permeated the Aborigines' Stone Age-like existence.

The hate-filled, anti-white DreamOn demands that the "ill begotten spawn of the transplanted genocidal pom" give Australia back to those to "whom it rightfully belongs." Let's assume for argument's sake that this preposterous demand were actually feasible: then what? Is DreamOn really arguing that Australia should be purged of all European influences and set aside as some sort of vast anthropological zoo for Aboriginal people only? Is s/he really proposing winding back the clock to the Stone Age?

Such an action would certainly set an interesting precedent as it would mean that every other country on earth not currently populated by its earliest population from tens of thousands of years ago would also need to undergo a purging process. Not a single country, people or culture on the face of the planet would be left intact.

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This is what it all boils down to: the asinine "give it back" crowd are unable to grasp that the colonisation of Australia was inevitable. The "dream time" was never going to last in perpetuity; sooner or later the modern world was going to collide with the Aborigines' primitive way of life.

Let's look at it this way: if the British had not of settled Australia, another European power, such as France or Spain, would have. And if it hadn't of been for European settlement, then it is likely that an Asian power would have eventually claimed Australia for itself. How would the Aborigines have fared under Asian rule? Would the Japanese or Chinese, for instance, have treated them better and more humanely than the British did? I find it highly unlikely, especially when one takes into account the historical brutality shown by both the Japanese and Chinese towards subjugated peoples under their rule.

Posted by Aristocrat

" ... If the Japanese did win there probably wouldn't be any 'original Australians' left. On the converse, there have been many successful 'original Australians' under Anglo-Saxon rule. ... "

I doubt that. Upon initial landing the Japanese seemed rather keen on procuring some of the females, and perhaps had they had their way, they would have put down the hostiles and enslaved the rest to "productive tasks" as was their general practice.

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Posted by drab, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 2:52:02 AM

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Given that the nature of the attrocities committed was so heinous, I believe that it is reasonable to suggest that as a whole Australia cannot really do enough to repay the debt.

I think that the best solution is in addition to turning the Australian guvna general into the Head of State and getting that thing out of the corner of our flag, whereas we have constituionally defined jurisdictions for commonwealth and state law respectively, we should add to that by returning partial sovereignty to the BlakFellas by providing them with their own jurisdiction of law and limited autonomy.

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What some of the frothing at the mouth commentators need to understand is that largely, the BlakFellas do not want your culture, do not serve your country and do not serve your nefarious Head of State - and why would they want to?

Thus, to continue to force assimilation upon them is to attempt to finalise the genocidal policies of the past, and certainly in parts of Australia, the genocide was effective to the last Tasmanian being put in a glass box display for muggles to gawk at, and that's just the tip of the ice berg.

Today, we have the ongoing racially discriminating practice of the intervention. Now, my view on this is quite simple, and not based in being anti-white as some clowns would suggest, but rather, if you are going to micro manage one group of neglectful and abusive parents etc, then you must do it to all

Thereafter, in terms of warfare, perhaps some amongst the internationals would have chosen to arm the BlakFellas. Now, had they been provided steeds and long sniper rifles, then things may have turned out rather differently.

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Hey?!

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They would have been the days, in the n.american woods sniping transplanted genocidal poms with weapons with a greater and more accurate range than the pathetic pommy muskets. HaHaHa.

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And don't some of you just want to go about stating how wonderful n.america is?

Well, one of the best things they did was doing away with the crown, and in turn they grew up to be a more self reliant and creative people who can produce far more than digging wholes in the ground and arming up totalitarian regimes.