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Empire, orphans, and honourable Aussies : Comments

By Chek Ling, published 22/6/2012

More Chinese Australians need to tell the story of the Chinese in Australia, away from the froth and bubble of multiculturalism.

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...The author draws a long bow in his association between the atrocities the Japanese inflicted on the Chinese in 1937, and the occasional skirmishes of European settlers, against indentured coolies in Australia. These two events are totally non-comparative, and on a vastly different scale. I think the anti-European sentiment of this article needs to be challenged.

...At the moment, we simply do business with the Chinese. Whereas, America remains as it always has and should be, a firm ally of Australia. I see no need at all to consider “defence agreements” between Australia and America, as any business of the Chinese. In fact, a closer reality is Chinese interference in the Asia Pacific, and how Australia and America respond to it! (So who “IS” the problem)?
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 22 June 2012 10:14:38 AM
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I appreciated this thoughtful article. It is hard for an anglo Australian like myself, seeing my country the way my education and media sources "want" me to see it, to notice the ignored streams of history which you highlight. You do a good job of inviting consideration of how our national self story could be impacting on our relationship with China.

It continues to puzzle me what it is about historical reality that scares so many decision makers. We know Australia was systematically racist until at least the middle of last century. It's obvious that we continue to have these racist streams flowing in some parts of our society and that an unwillingness to own up to these realities seems to pervade large parts of an otherwise reasonable society.

Many Australians (Myself included.)consider the Japanese government's continuing refusal to admit or apologise for the Japanese treatment of Australian citizens, soldier and civilians, in WW2 as evidence that the underlying attitudes that supported those actions continue to have some life in Japanese society or government. It's only logical to apply that same interpretation to those things Australians continue to be unwilling to admit or apologise for in regard to our historically certain treatment of Chinese citizens.

We clearly have more work to do before we have applied our aspiration of a "Fair Go" thoroughly to how we tell the story of our engagement and treatment of China and Chinese people, to ourselves and to the world.

Peace,
Mikel Azure.
Posted by MikelAzure, Friday, 22 June 2012 10:23:42 AM
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Check Ling
"If we want to be accepted as an honourable member in the Sinosphere of the 21st century, it might be a good start to have more Chinese Australians tell the unexpurgated story of the Chinese in Australia, away from the froth and bubble of multiculturalism and purged of the remains of the White Australia dream."

I wonder if the author could expand on what he/she means by "purged of the remains of the White Australia dream"?

Sounds racist
Posted by Aristocrat, Friday, 22 June 2012 2:58:38 PM
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<Apart from Penny Wong, few Chinese are seen in our public life. What does the Chinese government think of that? And if their emissaries should visit our National Museum or examine our history curriculum, they might conclude that the Chinese are at best presented as useful minions, albeit with warm intentions.>

How many Europeans,Australians or others are seen in Chinese public life.
I don't think I have ever seen one.?

Also, there was a well known Malaysian leader who called Paul Keating "recalcitrant", who was irritated by Australian politicains claiming
Australia was part of Asia.
He said Australia would never be part of Asia until it's population was 65% Asian. In other words don't call us friends white boy because you don't have Asian blood running in your veins. If that's not a racist statement I don't know what is. But I think that Malaysian leader understood the reality better than the writer of this article or all the other politically correct do gooders.
Posted by CHERFUL, Friday, 22 June 2012 7:47:34 PM
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I always find it interesting how those ethnic minority activists who complain the loudest about white Australian "racism" tend to be virulent racists themselves.

The author of this anti-white, Anglophobic mess of an article seems to want Chinese culture promoted more heavily in Australia at the expense of Australia's British and European heritage, which the author dismisses as the "remains of the White Australia dream."

In truth, the Chinese contribution to the development of Australia has been, with all due respect, minuscule in the grand scheme of things. New-age "multicultural" education may have distorted our history, but the reality is that modern Australia was built by Europeans, namely the British. It was those early British settlers and their descendants who toiled to transform this harsh continent into one of the world's most successful societies, while other, nearer nations, such as the Chinese, ignored Australia as useless, barren land of no importance. The British also brought with them the recipe for creating a successful civil society. The political freedoms and economic prosperity we enjoy in Australia today can all be attributed to our British heritage.

This is a cultural legacy Australia should be celebrating and promoting, not "purging" in order to placate minority groups.

My question to Chek Ling: why did you even bother migrating to Australia in the first place if you dislike the white, Anglo-Australian people and culture so much?

This seems to be a frequent trend: non-Western immigrants are offered a chance at a much better life in Australia but then, upon settling here, turn around and denigrate the host population that originally invited them in. Sounds somewhat ungrateful to me.
Posted by drab, Friday, 22 June 2012 10:38:12 PM
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Our Chinese populuation of some 800,000 need become more vocal on the subject of the USA and Europe beginning to demonise China/Russia because they have refused to bend to Western Imperialism.Both Paul Keating and Malcolm Fraser have recently accused the USA of trying to contain China.Does not China have the right like the West to seek energy/resources in Africa and the Middle East?

The real reason why China is being demonised is that of it's steadfast independance particularily in the banking industry.The West is controlled by private Central and Commercial Banks that express all our increases in productivity + inflation as debt.This why the Western Economies are consumed by debt.

The Chinese Govt Banks produce 80% new money for growth thus decreasing the tax burden and stopping the flow of money to OS banks.
This is one of the reasons China can have such high growth rates.

Japan enetered WW2 because the USA limited it trade and access to energy.Japan with little access to energy was left with no choice but to fight for survival.Japan too had an independant banking system.

When the USA invaded Libya,30,000 Chinese oil workers were forced to leave.China is also in Sudan and Uganda.

With the lie of terrorism fading,the USA has turned it's attention to Asia.If China relents and sells off her Govt banks to the private Western ones,there will be no wars.The Oligarchs in the West will have achieved their fascist New World Order.

Nathan Mayer Rothschild." Give me control of a nation's currency and I care not who makes the laws."
Posted by Arjay, Saturday, 23 June 2012 12:49:21 PM
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