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Putting Pandora back in the marriage equality box : Comments

By Jim Wallace, published 5/6/2012

A parliament forced to consider the intolerable is due only to the artificial power of the Greens.

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Jim Wallace is absolutely right in suggesting that, should same-sex marriage (SSM) be legalised, the polyamorous community would push for poly marriage.

Rodney Croome shows his nervousness by claiming that ‘marriage equality’ did not apply to the poly communities. As the author points out, it is ironic that in doing so, many of Croome's arguments mirrored those used against SSM.

Wallace correctly foreshadows that gay activists have an agenda "well beyond the current claim on it". Legalisation of SSM would have significant ramifications that have been confirmed by research and events here and elsewhere.

In fact, the homosexual movement has told a federal Attorney-General’s inquiry that it opposes any exemptions for churches and schools under new anti-discrimination legislation.

The strategy is to have the federal government introduce SSM, then to use planned new anti-discrimination legislation to force compliance on church organisations and schools.

The intention is to muzzle churches and require primary and secondary schools, and even kindergartens, to teach children about gay, lesbian, bisexual and transsexual lifestyles and that having two mothers or two fathers is no different from having a mother and a father.
Posted by Raycom, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 11:01:53 PM
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"Jim Wallace is absolutely right in suggesting that, should same-sex marriage (SSM) be legalised, the polyamorous community would push for poly marriage."

They're gonna push for it anyway, and how exactly would this affect you? Would someone else's poly-marriage somehow damage your hetero one?

"In fact, the homosexual movement has told a federal Attorney-General’s inquiry that it opposes any exemptions for churches and schools under new anti-discrimination legislation.

The strategy is to have the federal government introduce SSM, then to use planned new anti-discrimination legislation to force compliance on church organisations and schools.

The intention is to muzzle churches and require primary and secondary schools, and even kindergartens, to teach children about gay, lesbian, bisexual and transsexual lifestyles and that having two mothers or two fathers is no different from having a mother and a father."

Good. The church has been pushing religion on tax-payer funded public schools for long enough. Would teaching gender equality be any worse than teaching about the violent crucifiction of a supposed messiah that may or may not have existed? Considering being gay is a natural predisposition, children who aren't gay will only be learning that children who are gay are their equals. They will learn that children with gay parents are also their equals. It won't, however, turn them gay just because they think it's ok. Children are taught that brocolli is good for you, but how many of them will actually eat it without complaining?
Posted by Martin Bouckaert, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 11:09:40 PM
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Captain Kuhle, I'd take the whole concern fot children thing a lot more serioulyif I was seeing the same level of interest in kids welfare when it came to trying to have a family law/child support regeim that encouraged parents to work together rather than the current winner takes all system that provides financial motivation to grab custody and minimise the kids time with the other parent.

A difficult issue but one that can be far more easily linked to poor outcomes for children but which seems to attract little or no interest other than from those parents on the wrong side of that system.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Thursday, 7 June 2012 5:33:52 AM
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Dear Captain K,

Many people hold the view that marriage is a bond
between two people that involves responsibility
and legalities, as well as commitment and challenge.
And frankly I can't see what all the fuss is about.
Children need a loving, safe, secure environment -
and they will get it from a loving committed couple
who want to have children. To me it's as simple as
that. The rest of the arguments- as another poster
pointed out - is simply muddying the waters and to
suggest that same-sex couples are simply not qualified
to raise happy. normal, children - is simply not true -
and indeed is a prejudiced point of view. (pre-judgemental).
Posted by Lexi, Thursday, 7 June 2012 10:41:58 AM
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McReal & David Corbett,

I don't think it is reasonable at all to wilfully deny any child the opportunity to be raised by both it's genetic parents. I'm therefore opposed to IVF/Surrogacy for singles as well as for same-sex couples. I also think it is selfish in the extreme for a woman to have a fling in the hope that she might become pregnant.

I also wouldn't mind if we ditched ARTs altogether because even a married heterosexual couple can choose to destroy excess embryos-the ultimate form of child abuse.
Posted by Beaker, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 1:47:40 PM
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