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Putting Pandora back in the marriage equality box : Comments

By Jim Wallace, published 5/6/2012

A parliament forced to consider the intolerable is due only to the artificial power of the Greens.

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I fully support Jim Wallace. At the end of the day it's a bit like comparing apples and bananas. The banana says everyone needs to treat me as if i'm an apple but unfortunately a banana will always be a banana. Oh and 2 bananas don't make an apple either.
Posted by JR49, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 9:14:19 PM
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JR49,

"...The banana says everyone needs to treat me as if i'm an apple...."

This thread just gets more profound by the moment....
Posted by Poirot, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 9:23:23 PM
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I would probably support polyamorous marriage, although I wouldn't recommend it personally. But if people are living that way, and truly believe it makes them happy, then their relationship should be recognised by the community, especially if there are children involved. If no-one is being harmed, what is the problem?

This discussion preventing gay marriage for the purpose of "protecting the children" is actually quite disgusting. How are you protecting children by telling them their parents are not equal to other kids parents? By saying their family is not as good as other families and that their parents can't possibly be as good parents as others are.

And to hear religious right-to-lifers saying surrogacy should be prohibited is just outright hypocrisy. My friends beautiful little nephew would not be alive if it wasn't for his gay parents bringing him into this world, and they are doing a fantastic job, much better than many other parents. I'd like just one of you to go and tell him that he shouldn't have been born and that his parents are no good. Because that is what you are saying so back it up.
Posted by David Corbett, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 10:44:00 PM
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"McReal ... Do you mean (by your second statement) that homosexuality is due primarily to environmental factors?"
Posted by Beaker, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 1:16:52 PM

No. there is no evidence that homosexuality is due to environmental factors or has a genetic basis, though it seems to be congenital (something a child is born with).

Many things are congenital yet not genetic.

There have been a number of hypotheses about homosexuality to do with androgen/testosterone receptors in the brain; the role of immune factors against those receptors or the hormones, etc, etc. None of those hypotheses provide a universal answer.
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"In what way do you consider our discussion to be relevant to the same-sex marriage debate?"

As homosexuality seems to have an innate psycho-biological basis in almost all cases, and is only a sexual orientation, it seems reasonable to not deny homosexuals the opportunity to function as care-givers, including for children.
Posted by McReal, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 11:54:30 AM
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Meanwhile of course most of the real problems in the world are generated by heterosexual males, both married and unmarried, particularly unmarried.

Most of the worlds "domestic" violence is committed by heterosexual males. In the Western world it used to be sanctioned by both the State and the Church. It was supposed to be "impossible" for a mnarried man to rape his wife - he was only exercising his "conjugal rights". What he did (however horrendous) to his wife and children within the "privacy of his own castle/home" was nobody's business but his.

He was even allowed under the "rule of thumb" to beat his wife and children to discipline them. Which is to point out that the he was allowed to use a cane to beat them as long as the cane was no thicker than his thumb. Anyone for the "mark of cain/cane"?

Most of the extraordinary number of pornography sites on the internet are put up by, and cater for heterosexual males.
Most of the worlds "sex tourists" are heterosexual males.

Most crime in the world is committed by heterosexual males. Both at the local and now ever-expanding world wide level.

How many heterosexual males have been murdered and beaten by homosexuals?
How many heterosexual males have been systematically verbally abused by homosexuals? Even to the degree of commiting suicide.

How many homosexual males think that it is "sporting" to shoot Black Ducks? Or to go hunting altogether.
Posted by Daffy Duck, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 12:30:04 PM
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How many "crusades" both ancient and modern have been generated by homosexuals?
Crusades to bring "jesus" and "god", the "one true faith" and "civilization" to the heathen savages.

How many "jihads" both ancient and modern have been generated by homosexuals?
Jihads to bring the "final revelation" to the "infidel" unbelievers.

By contrast all of that never-ending slaughter was (and is) generated by patriarchal "traditionalists".
Posted by Daffy Duck, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 1:04:38 PM
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