"Gay marriage by definition denies a child either a mother or a father."

Yes, yes, yes... but so does divorce and widowhood, and I have yet to see any anti-gay-marriage campaigners crusading against divorce or trying to force widowed partners to remarry. Funny that 'suffering children' is only a problem when it comes to gay marriage, isn't it?

But on the basis of your twisted logic that 'it's all about the children', you should be supporting polyamorous marriages. surely: after all, the more people you bring in to a relationship, the more likely it is that at least one is female.

I strongly support Jim Wallace’s comments above. I have no problem with having an informed discussion about the relative merits of homosexual marriage, or any other type of marriage. Unfortunately the discussion that is being promoted online and through various media outlets is not based on facts. While admitting that the heterosexual viewpoint has not always been expressed in an appropriate and gracious manner, the double standards and illogical arguments used by the homosexual lobby are breathtaking.

It would be great if political parties and “current affairs” programs could focus on a discussion based on truth and respect, not a discussion built on hidden agendas and unsubstantiated and often threatening comments.

So all surrogacy is wrong... is it Mr. Wallace?

See if you can think of at least one exception you might not classify negatively.

Or don't the ACL think it possible to lead by example?

Divorce etc occur because of tragedy or desertion and as a society we don whatever we can to prevent this because of our concern for kids. Same-sex couples acquiring babies through surrogacy must dliberately decide to rob a child of one of its biological parents. While adult desires are valid, they should never trump the rights of a child. Severing a child from its biological parents is harmful. There needs to be some limits to the gay political agenda.

It would seem that the pushy gay community is hoist on their own petard!

Perhaps more important issues might get back on the public agenda.

Oh dear. Another anti-gay marriage proponent basing his opposition on the slippery slope as if it was somehow a solid argument. How predictable. And how predictably unpersuasive. Try again Jim.

>>Severing a child from its biological parents is harmful.<<

Then how do we explain all the orphans and so on who have been raised by unrelated parents and have done just fine? Are they the exceptions that prove the rule? I think most kids will do just fine when raised by responsible and loving adult(s) with the child's best interests at heart - regardless of how much genetic similarity the child and parent and share or what the parent's sexual orientation is.

Cheers,

Tony