*you can be sure that Jesus is repulsed by man's idea of 'gay'marriage*

Well I'm not so sure about that, runner. Jesus would have preached
tolerance. Given that his father created gays, are you suggesting
that God is some kind of sadistic/masochistic freak?

Sexual attraction is innate, its not about choice. Just like
when the first time the wife dropped her negligee and you were a bit
younger, you did not choose to have that erection, it just happpened.

If you think its a choice, then clearly you could choose to have
an erection at the mere sight of another naked male! Sheesh,
runner the closet gay, now that would be a story :)

Did God create gays? Or, the Devil? Or, simply the natural process of evolution? (You don't think a gay child could be either a reward or a punishment for good or bad parenting perhaps? Or, for achievement or failure in a 'former life'? A bit unlikely, wouldn't you say?)

Now, there's a good reason to believe in evolution, wouldn't you say? Or not, depending on which side your bread is buttered.

So much tells us that gay-ness is a natural biological phenomenon, but there is no disputing that it is a divergence from the majority 'condition' (unless of course there are a huge number of closet deniers). It must also be clear that gay-ness is counter to success according to the Laws of Natural Selection. Hence, is gay-ness due to die out in due course? Could its current incidence correlate perhaps with the rise in juvenile diabetes, asthma, etc, and hence possibly be linked to something in our diet - or, more specifically to the diets of birthing-age mothers?

Is gay-ness perhaps an inheritable trait? Are the children of gay couples more likely than not to be gay? - meaning those created using biological material donated by one of the partners. (Or, can gay-ness skip a generation or two?) Given that the vast majority of gays would have to be the progeny of supposedly straight parents, the gene responsible would have to be exceedingly resilient, and lurking generation after generation before re-emerging. One tough so-and-so.

Gays do brighten up existence nonetheless (especially the guys), and the world would be the lesser without them. They do deserve a fair go, but in view of the special place they hold in our hearts, and in each others, I somehow think they deserve something brighter, more colourful and more dynamic than mundane old marriage. Don't you think?

Poirot

you certainly ain't slow in beinging Jesus into this arguement. As I said before I doubt whether you are really interested in HIs view. You seem more intent on bigotry.

>>You seem more intent on bigotry.<<

It seems you need to buy a new Bible runner. Yours appears to be missing the Gospels. They are fairly important. Here's something that you may have missed because your abridged version of the Bible ends at Genesis:

Matthew 7:3-5
KJV

3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

Cheers,

Tony

runner,

"you certainly aint slow beinging Jesus into this arguement..."

Well that's the pot calling the kettle black!

"...I doubt whether you are interested in His view..."

On the contrary, I'm interested in the contrast between "His view" and your exalted and arrogant presumption that your words and style accurately represent it.

Here's a tip for you, runner. You don't represent his view very well. You fire away, all guns blazing from behind the ramparts of Christianity as if your word was a pronouncement from on high.

The fact that you habitually employ your self-styled status as a professed Christian to admonish fellow posters and pin insulting and derogatory epithets on them is shameless. I know plenty of Christians who strive quietly and humbly to emulate the example of Christ. They exude a humility quite unlike the venomous prose that you regularly daub around this forum.

You appear to reflect the more unsavoury aspects conjoured out of the movement called "Christianity" - you consistently fail to reflect the simplicity of Christ's message

Poiret
'On the contrary, I'm interested in the contrast between "His view" and your exalted and arrogant presumption that your words and style accurately represent it.

Your track record indicates otherwise. What don't you understand about Jesus clear reference to marriage?

' For this cause a man shall leave father and mother and shall cling to his wife, and the two of them shall be one flesh? '
Mathew 19:5