Dear Poirot,

<<But they don't learn>>

They do, but it takes the time, sometimes a very long time, sometimes more than a lifetime.

<<.... at least they've never learned to subdue their savagery toward their own kind>>

Those who completed their studies moved on and are no longer with us. Others who have not yet learned to subdue their savagery toward their own kind are still here because they need further lessons. Most of us are in between, having just partially subdued our savagery.

Dear Pericles,

I loved your cheerful quote of Bertrand Russell. Given that the fate of this solar system is known in advance, we can come off such grandiose distracting ideas of trying to change it and instead concentrate on learning and performing our respective duties.

Yuyutsu,
Are you telling us that those that have pre-existed us have learned the lessons of life? Such claims are absolute nonsense!

Dear Josephus,

"Are you telling us that those that have pre-existed us have learned the lessons of life?"

No Sir, I was writing to Poirot; I was not trying to tell you anything.

On the subject-matter:

1. "Pre-existed" assumes that we exist and so did they. I already explained that existence is an illusion. In Truth, we don't exist, we never existed, and never will.

2. As for those who identified as people of earlier human history, I guess that a few did learn all their lessons, a few others did not yet learn anything since, while most learned just some of their lessons and not others. I have however no presumption to quantify this.

42 is an excellent alternative to Yuyutsu.

Posted by Josephus, Thursday, 10 May 2012 9:50:18 PM

*Yuyutsu*

" ... Are you telling us that those that have pre-existed us have learned the lessons of life? Such claims are absolute nonsense! ... "

No more non-sensical than some of your beliefs I suspect *Josephus* however, I think that I know what *Yuyutsu* is trying to express here, as I have encountered similar beliefs in parts of Asia which practice Buddhist beliefs and also some aspects of the same contained in so called esoteric Christian beliefs, which incorporate beliefs such as re-incarnation and the transendence and transmigration of the Soul.

Essentially, some of these other beliefs hold that Soul of Humanity (and not just humanity) is in a constant state of birth, death and re-birth and evolving (in part through the "lessons of life" ) back towards its native, non-corporeal/heavenly existence.

Thus, some of these same beliefs (and to bring it little closer to home for you *Josephus* ) do not recognise some family like connection between figures such as *Jesus* and the GodHead that is not also shared by everyone us, but rather acknowledge him as a "Master," for want of a better term, who through evolution reached the point where he (but in a non-gender specific sense) transcended the flesh and conquered death, and no longer is bound "to the wheel of life."

Thus, in those particular belief systems, Jesus whom some call by the title of Christ, is indeed recognised as someone who has proceeded us in terms of his life in the flesh, but unlike the majority if not all of us has "learned the lessons" of corporeal existence/life such that he requires them no more.

In the Greek the word is *Soma Heliakon* (or Solar Body) and one (perhaps fanciful) interpretation of the so called Holy City as found in the relevant Biblical texts.

its been an amasing series of reading ..in this topio
thanks for the info

those who accept that 42 is the answer
[to life the uni-verse/and everything]..to wit materialistic baulderdash

its three questions
but lets egsamin the way of the 42...[tao=the way]
and 42 indicated the same [in masonic numeral code][4=for..2= to[as in going to....[something/someplace/some desire or some hope or fate]

regardless 42 means for going to..

[to wit just like the tao=the way..[to]..something/place/fullfillment attainment..etc...i enjoyed hearing of josepous here[not som much the other topic...but heckl the truth hurts..if its not hurting you hearing it..its not true

life is about accepting..we will evolve/change
just as life changes...[this dont validate evolution change of genus]..

but change as of a spirit..
evolving into ever higher life incarnations..
till we attaion the highest call..our own sol system..and radiate life gods love light/logic/ upon that life we created..[or not]..many are called [so far only 9 solar systems have been succesfully chosen/swedenberg]

we the only one
who can comprehend written word
as easilly as we can make..the thoughts of dead people [yet again come alive]..in writing..[al the rest like the primatives..have angels/demons..acting as trustees..over the lords trust/creation

the universe is our sandpit
[once we get the love light right]