The concept of god is really just us replacing mum or dad with an all powerful protector.If you are a mature and deep thinking person,you don't need the concept of an imaginary being.Just the increase in awareness with daily struggles is enough.

To be pre-occupied with the concept of god,is like making sex more important than the relationship is a marriage.Just live and do the best you can.

There may be a use for religion, but I would suggest that anybody so adhering as to not respect the choice of others to not is automatically unable to vote through being unable to recognise the interests of others.

I encourage runner because I think more people shun fundamentalist "christianity" than if he were silent. The more runner reminds us of what fundies are really like, the more we realise these jokes should not influence our lives.

Any "god" who prefers the company of "runner" as presented here is not anybody I care to know. I have *better* friends right here in real life.

Rusty

Yes well sure enough after looking at the website for this denial fest you will find plenty of blasphemy and mocking of Christ and yeah silence when it comes to Mohammed. The usual gutless tripe you get from these events.

Dear Runner,

I can understand that as a Christian you are particularly sensitive to the persecution of Christianity, but in fact ALL religions are under threat just as well. We have no time for the luxury of splitting on sectarian issues: the humanist crusaders are marching fast for world-domination and if we don't unite, they may as well have theirs. As their pseudo-religion prohibits them from physically throwing their opponents (us) to the lions, they (like Pharaoh in Exodus) aim instead for our children, to exterminate us spiritually by brainwashing them in schools with humanistic garbage from their Church of Reason.

The Christian-Church's mistaken use of social-engineering for about 1500 years was in reaction to the traumatic Roman/Jewish oppression, but that's not what Jesus taught: Jesus was not a humanist; he did not promote human society, but the private relation between each individual and God (both directly and through himself).

What the Children of Israel did in response to Pharaoh was not to coup him and control Egypt, but to leave for the desert. Of course it doesn't have to be physically the Australian desert, but the desert is a metaphor for isolation, for the place where we can best practice our relation with God and teach our children accordingly away from the evil lot, where we can be ruled by God alone!

How to get there?

Stop trying to rule Egypt! If they for-example want to marry men-with-men or women-with-chicken, then that's their business. You block your eyes-and-ears and keep fast to the natural-family: so far they have not stopped you by force (and if they do, you have every right to fight back in self-defense).

Build your fort: Pray and trust in God; Become self-sufficient (or gather your own small religious-community); Learn to be frugal; Try to avoid using their money: use your own or barter.

Share with all lovers of God, not just the Christians among them. We have much more to gain than the humanists, because all they can hope for is material and temporary while we can attain God eternally.

May God be with you!

Yuyutsu, what you say can be confusing.

Are you referring to:

* Secular humanism

* Religious humanism

* Christian humanism

* Humanistic Judaism

* Renaissance humanism

* New Humanism

* Marxist Humanism

? and ? and ?

Need your guidance (a lot of what you say makes sense) - but you don't have to have "faith" to agree.

Besides, Wikki can only help so far.

Runner,

Allow me to be the first to equate Jesus with Mohammed in any and every way you like.

As you are familiar with the concept of denial (albeit very selective) I don't expect you will be capable of appreciating the similarities.