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Defining racism : Comments

By Anthony Dillon, published 9/3/2012

Is a law racist just because it affects one race more than others, or must there be other elements?

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Joe,
I am not chained to my culture - it is an integral part of my life that I value deeply. It does not stop me working and valuing mainstream culture, my culture strengthens me - I draw strength, particularly from the spirituality that is central to it.

Just as mainstream Australian culture has evolved from its British/Germanic/Celt roots Indigenous Australian culture has evolved and adapted. This means that I am chained no less to my culture's roots than you are chained by your culture. The European culture, which I presume informs your worldview, needed racism to justify the colonisation of Australia, or how else would ordinary god fearing folk be able to destroy, dispossess and desecrate another people and their land. Some folk remained to the culture of colonialist Britain and Europe - chained to racist notions that they are somehow superior beings.

Racism does not need to continue, but it will continue to fester until it is addressed fairly and its existence is not denied.
Posted by Aka, Saturday, 10 March 2012 10:12:08 PM
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AKA,
Wrong,totally wrong, I dismiss your assertions as calculated to be offensive to White Australians and reject the idea that such views can be seen as offered in good faith according to the prevailing interpretation of the current racial and religious tolerance guidelines . Being a more or less tolerant person I'll cut you some slack and put it down to a misunderstanding due to racial differences and move on with my remarks.
As noted in the opening post of this discussion, there was no concept of Racism within White populations before the euphemistically titled "civil rights" era after which time it has been used against White people, Anti Racism is simply a code word for anti White.
God fearing people used no justification beyond their religious convictions to bring their version of civilisation to Indigenous Australians, the fact that in some of their pronouncements the word "Race" was used is always taken out of context, they were God's race.
Today's WASP, do gooders and Anti Racists are the direct descendants of those God fearing settlers, both in spiritual belief and more than likely in a very direct, genetic relationship.
Todays reformers came from a heritage of Protestantism and Liberalism, I call it the WASP tendency but we might also call it the East Anglian movement, it's the cult of suffering, the nobility of victimhood, guilt and self reproach.
You've been assigned a role in this belief system by virtue of your race and educated according to it's doctrine, parroting their rhetoric does neither you nor other members of your race any credit, it merely places you in a supportive role to those who dispossessed your ancestors of their religion, traditions and language via their evangelism and Protestant revolutionary zeal.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Saturday, 10 March 2012 10:36:36 PM
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Jay of Melbourne,
check out this site.
World Council of Churches Disowns "Doctrine of Discovery"
http://www.nativenewsnetwork.com/world-council-of-churches-disowns-doctrine-of-discovery.html

Colonsiation was based on the notion of the colonisers being a superior race and the colonised not being real people.

It was a racist doctrine that justified colonisation.
Posted by Aka, Saturday, 10 March 2012 11:34:05 PM
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AKA
What did I say about the Protestant cult of self reproach, guilt and self abasement?
These so called "Churches" are engaged in revisionism (actually re writing history) to wash away their sins, to prostrate themselves before the holy victims, the exalted "other".
The Anglican church is basically run by neo Communists, are you suggesting that a "church" which now ordains women and Homosexuals can give an unbiased view of history, or that it's leadership has any right to speak on behalf of those who have long since passed?

You've made allegations about a specific group of European settlers and their alleged motivations, you are wrong, that's not to say other groups did not see Aborigines as an inferior caste and I don't deny that they still do but it's not acceptable to tar all White settlers with the same brush.
Some of the WASP "do gooders" are supremacists in the sense that they see themselves as MORALLY and ethically superior to those who don't share their egalitarian views, they see xenophilia and the cult of the victim as a MORAL good.
Others of us, that is to say the majority of White Australians do not share that mindset, we are racially pre-disposed to organise in a hierarchy, to compete, to climb the ladder and to value prestige, aristocratic mores and material prosperity.
We are in conflict with the WASP do gooders on a very fundamental. racial level, we are not one ethnic group, there is actually a great deal of animosity, if not hatred on both sides,though multiculturalism, particularly the injection of Islam into the mix has moderated this ill feeling I don't think we can ever be reconciled.
I seriously believe that if not for the moderating influence of other races in the community we could have seen a White civil war along the lines of the U.S War Between The States, don't forget, the whole point of multiculturalism was to break WASP dominance of Australian life, that they had their own strength, their extreme egalitarianism used against them.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Sunday, 11 March 2012 7:05:18 AM
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Aka or shall we call you Granny,
Yes there WAS a view that supports your claims of white superiority. 300 years ago the europeans were definitely more worldly that the australian indigenous because by that time the european had a view of a World which the indigenous did not. Just as the Chinese, the Phoenicians & the Egyptians had a world view before the europeans. It is neither good nor bad to become advanced sooner or later than another group of humans. On the downside the less worldly becomes the underdog. There's nothing anyone ever has or ever will do to change that. Even in the indigenous population there were tribal conflicts by the more switched-on just as the then more advanced asians & europeans had others under their thumb. The argument of what one lot of humans did to another is as fruitful or pointless to argue that I was born male & you female.
Unless you are extremely religious you'll have to accept the concept of evolution & this includes cruelty, exploitation etc. The better things befall us when people start thinking.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 11 March 2012 9:37:41 AM
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"Better things befall us when people start thinking."

Which is true as far as human ingenuity and comfort are concerned (if you happen to be on the side of the dominant culture)...but all things eventually reach a critical juncture where continuing progress needs to be tempered with wisdom (not our strong point). Who would say that the ever present threat of a nuclear holocaust is a "good thing" for humanity...it's the continuation of a process for a "thinking being" who is clever, but seldom wise.
Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 11 March 2012 9:50:13 AM
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