Puppydog68,

When you have finished the washing-up, go into Google and type in "Google Scholar" and bookmark it ! A gold-mine !

Cheers,

Joe

Namaste,
Are you saying that the White South African's fear of being murdered by bloodthirsty Black Communists was unfounded?
Everything in context right? Sharpeville sits alongside Cato Manor, tens of Police attacked by thousands of hostile Black communists, what would you have done if you were a White Policeman and you knew what the mob was planning to do to you, ie castrate you, beat and stab you to death and drag your body through the streets.
You can show sympathy for Steve Biko or Mandela but not for Anika Smit, of course poor young Anika never made it to the nightly news over here, just like the thousands of other Whites murdered, raped and tortured to death by Blacks.
http://riverbanker.blogspot.com.au/2010/03/anika-smit.html
Don't lecture us about morality when you promote racial bias yourself, at least I'm objective and I don't pretend to be something I'm not.

Again, nobody accused the Apartheid Regimes of Genocide, but the ANC regime is accused of actual preparation for acts of Genocide and the plight of White South Africans is now becoming impossible to ignore, the European Parliament is even finally starting to stir.
You know darn well that anti Racists do ignore, cover up and downplay crimes against White people in the multiracial societies they created out of formerly White countries.

For Rainier (and I suspect you are possibly Aka, given the racist tones in your messages). As mentioned before, you started out in this forum poorly by doubting that I had a PhD and you went down hill from there to the point where you think that you know my father better than what I know him. Let me point out some facts: he is in 100% agreement with my ideas, he did not achieve what he did in his career by letting racism be an excuse whenever things did not go his way; he strongly opposes the victim brigade, and sees people like you as a major hindrance to the advancement of Aboriginal people. I have not shared your words with him yet, but I am sure his blood would boil if he read your lies. Now I have never denied racism, so stop your lying. And you have demonstrated how week you are when you need to lie. To say something like "According to Anthony his Dad was just imagining.." is plain stupid. Shame Rainier, shame.
For Aka, it is interesting that you accuse me of the very things you do and are. I am not closed minded, but am very open minded. I am open to the idea that racism may be the cause of the problems facing Aboriginal people, but you are unable to provide any evidence and conveniently ignore the counter evidence. As I see it, and I am happy to be corrected here, your evidence is 1) Aka says so, 2) many other people agree with Aka's claims, and 3) racism is the cause of people's problems simply because they say so. Perhaps you need to check the limitations of self-reported data. You remind me of a friend who says she can contact the spirit world, she may claim it, she just has difficulty proving it. I have no doubt that she believes it, but her claim still has no validity for me. Both of you are in a hole and should stop digging.

“I have undertaken rigorous and original research ...their knowledge with me.”
I think you mean “they shared their opinions with me”. So people claim that they are upset/offended/hurt etc, and they believe it is caused by racism, so it must be true? That is your idea of “rigorous and original research”? Did your PhD come out of cereal box? Aka, if somebody told you they were upset because it was an overcast day, would you say that must be the truth because they said so? Again, how do you explain the fact that many people who have experienced racism (and overcast days), are totally unaffected by it? I do try to be open. I do believe racism exists. What I have doubts about is that the racism is the cause for people’s problems.
“ Do you expect me to assume that all of the people I interviewed told me lies? Do you question the things I have witnessed? This is simply outrageous.”
You witness what people tell you. I am not questioning that. How do you validate their claims?

“In no way have you reflected that your mind is open”
My mind is open, but I’m just waiting for something better than your consensus argument to come along.
“By ridiculing and dismissing seminal works in your field, you set yourself up to fail. The irony of it is that your problems stem from racism - you total refusal to consider it an issue. “
“Seminal works”? because you say they are? I have never refused to acknowledge racism (just as I never refuse to acknowledge overcast days), I just do not see the evidence that it is the cause of people’s problems.

“Anthony, this conversation is at an end. You have proven that you are incapable of accepting … under a misguided belief that you alone know the answer. “
Such false accusations tell more about you than I. You certainly are in the majority with your thinking. Can you see why Aboriginal people remain the most disempowered group in this country?

“while others have achieved simply because they worked hard, found ways to overcome or deal with difficulties (like racism), and some saw a break and grasped onto it, worked hard etc.”

One of the very few sensible statements you have made in this discussion.

“As for 'the literature', as a researcher surely you know that reviewing literature critically does not mean that you can simply dismiss rigorous research undertaken by the likes of the AMA (non-Indigenous research)”

I could ask you to give some examples of this “rigorous research undertaken” but I already know what your response will be.

“Being successful does not exclude experiencing racism or other knocks. Just as experiencing racism does not exclude someone from achieving success.”

I agree 100%. Did I say otherwise?

In each of your postings, you fail to substantiate your claims and fail to answer my questions. Why not quit while you are behind?

At this stage I should acknowledge your positive points. Usually by now, many of the people I have debated with would have slandered me or suggested that I deny the holocaust.

“Some, as I am sure you will have heard, is because they assimilated and think 'white' - they are tamed,”

More typical Aka/Rainier racist nonsense. Your statements are an insult (which is evidence of your insecurity and sincerity) to the many fine Aboriginal people in this country whose integrity and fortitude has brought them success. Based on this, I refuse to correspond with you any further, so after this post, go ahead and have the last say.

I am left wandering why you do not wish to see Aboriginal people enjoy a life equal with other Australians

Anthony,
I am not Rainier.

I was not going to respond as I feel you are grasping at straws if you cannot see that some people experience/process/react to things differently. Some people may have more or less supports or opportunity.

You have made me cranky though that you dare assume what or how I might think.

You challenge the integrity or capacity of the people I interviewed. It would surprise you that many of those interviewed and who shared their knowledge with me are some of the successful people you like to cite.

These are not people who discussed racism as victims, it was discussed as evidence of ignorance, malice, or just stupidity, but not as victims. Racism was not the topic of my research but it arose as a small side issue. The affects of racism were discussed at a critical level - not the cheap shots that minimise and deny racism you take.

Your derision of respondents in my research is offensive. I assure you, you would not like to tell these people that you don't believe them.

Puppydog68,
the tactic you use, I would call 'owning what you say' and it is a good strategy for communicating in relationships. Most people are lazy and say that TA makes them angry, rather than the more accurate I get angry at TA.

However if I said I was angry at TA I would mean I was angry, and if some clown told me I was not rally angry because anger was all about victim-hood or whatever, I am pretty sure I would be even more angry.
Hope that helps.