Well I expect that I will kicked off this forum shortly.

I asked Graham for an explanation of which part of my initial comment He felt was aggressive. To no avail. Just a threat.

Graham: Not interested in an argument John. If you are not prepared to treat the forum with respect I will suspend you.

I asked Graham if I to could receive an appology from csteel for her aggressive personal comments directed towards me. see below.

csteel: If not you can shove them where the sun don't shine my friend.

csteel: And it seems to me that you condone the killing of innocents and terror from the skies to fulfil you agenda. That is the terrorist mindset and you have portrayed it beautifully with your post.

Why should I think you are any better than those supporting London bombers?
See that was easy, and pretty damn lazy.
There are few things on OLO that tic me off more than the type of attacking drivel your first post delivered.
Pull your head in.

csteel: So do we leave it there or is it to be a defender's defender vs a coward's coward?

Naturally Graham, I expect that you have sent csteel the same warning.

Grahams reply: I haven’t sent csteel any warnings, and I don’t intend to at this stage.

I did inform Graham in light of the fact that I felt that the Form was somewhat biased in favour on left-wing greenie radicals although nowhere as bias as sites such as "GetUp." Meaning of course that if you supported a LWGR view you would be less likly to receive a bullocking than if you supported a democratic westernized viewpoint.

At no time did I feel I was being agressive & I can't find out where I was aggressive. I was standing up for the majority Western viewpoint which apparently is a no no.

Dear Jayb,

The words in my first post were to show you whatever you may think of Ms Kelly spewing those thoughts unedited on to an open forum was not only easy and lazy but unconscionable.

Have I over reacted by referring to you personally as cowardly? Most definitely, especially as I don't know you, I withdraw it and apologise.

I also withdraw the offer to answer your questions, I think we have both hijacked this particular thread for long enough and I for one would be more than happy if Graham were to expunge both our contributions here.

csteel: , I think we have both hijacked this particular thread for long enough and I for one would be more than happy if Graham were to expunge both our contributions here.

Agreed.

My object on my first post was only to point out that the media only pushes & makes a lot of noise about one side of the picture & it's usually anti-American. If the the drones cause colateral damage & some women & children are involved there is usually a large hue & cry about it. If The Teliban bomb a compound & 50 innocent women & children are killed injured then not much is made of it by left-wing radical greenie groups. Why?

If a drone takes out a target, then the inteligence on the target is researched to an extremely high degree before the order to fire is ever given. There are two people that control the drone & the ordinance & the order to fire is not given lightly. The decision to fire is not taken by the drone controllers themselves. It is given by the mission commander after very careful consideration of all the facts relating to that particular mission & the all clear is given. Do they have people on the ground spotting? Mostly, yes. & a spy in the sky tracking the bad guys for the mission, yes. Targets are never, I say again, never, random.
For a short video on what is involved go here.

http://www.military.com/video/aircraft/pilotless-aircraft/inside-a-predator-strike/877172052001/

What! nobody want to play with me anymore?

I sorry if I offended anyone.

I was brought up to search out & tell the truth. I guess in these times it gets frightening when fact & truth interupts the fantasy world some people like to live in, but, that's not my fault.

If I remember my ancient history & I do. The messenger always gets killed.

By the way, did anyone look up the Drone Simulation on Military.com. I thought that was very interesting.