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Union of sameness versus union of difference : Comments

By David Palmer, published 8/2/2012

Same-sex marriage is not going to happen any time soon, if at all.

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Clownfish,
You're the one who is assuming that I called you a homosexual. I said you lot & that means those who defend homosexuality.
You're making a public accusation of me being a bigot, so get your facts straight if you really do know the meaning of straight that is.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 12 February 2012 8:52:06 PM
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Oh the humanity, individual...

"You're making a public accusation of me being a bigot..."

Get a load of this:

"...If you want some sort of union between the biological (sic) challenged then go forth and find another word. Do not use marriage, you're offending normal people."

Charmed I'm sure.
Posted by Poirot, Sunday, 12 February 2012 9:45:53 PM
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Hm. Posts frequently peppered with pejoratives like 'homo', 'poofter', 'queer', etc. Constant invective against such. I'd say calling that as bigotry is entirely justified.

'Bigot: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one exhibiting intolerance, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs. The predominant usage in modern English refers to persons hostile to those of differing sex, race, ethnicity, religious belief or spirituality, nationality, language, sexual orientation'.

If the white hood fits, my friend, best wear it.

Despite your piss-poor effort at back-pedalling, contrasting 'you lot' and 'us heterosexuals' clearly insinuates that 'my lot' is not heterosexual, ergo, that I am homosexual.
Posted by Clownfish, Sunday, 12 February 2012 10:04:01 PM
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white hood
Clownfish,
now that is racist ! Best cut that crap ok!
Posted by individual, Sunday, 12 February 2012 10:46:00 PM
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It is normally considered rude to answer a question with another question, individual, but for the sake of getting to the bottom of your somewhat out-there assertion, I'll persevere.

>>Pericles, Is one of you a muslim ?<<

No. In fact, for the record, we might not even be married. But let's assume for a moment that one of us is Muslim, and the other isn't. You stated that:

>>In Malaysia a man & a woman can not marry if one is not muslim. If they are married & visit Malaysia then they are not permitted to sleep in the same hotel room.<<

But how would the hotel know, unless they ask me "are you both Muslim".

I have stayed in a number of hotels in Kuala Lumpur, and haven't seen this question anywhere on the reservation form. I should also point out that your "information" is not consistent with any of the guides issues by the Malaysian Government. Surely, such important tourist information should be clearly stated? Instead, the furthest they go is sartorial advice...

"Malaysia’s a fairly liberal nation but rules of propriety still exist. Women are especially subjugated to the laws of convention and female tourists are encouraged to adhere to these standards. Dress modestly and try to blend in with the locals by being respectful, especially in areas of stronger Muslim religious sensibilities, such as the east coast of Peninsular Malaysia."

Do you know what? I think you are just stirring the pot. You certainly don't know what you are talking about on this particular topic.
Posted by Pericles, Monday, 13 February 2012 8:39:28 AM
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Clownfish,

'So, Houellebec, you're actually endorsing miscegenation now? You must really miss the days of the Ol' South.'

I cant make any sense of that.

For a start, it's your analogy. Secondly, people from the Ol' South would be anti miscegenation. Surely.

I think you have adequately demonstrated that your parallel is rubbish. As I said, if YOU (It's your analogy) believe denying miscegenation for both white and black people is an inequality, YOU must therefore think either white or black people are inferior.

Which do you think is inferior? I think they're equal.

Like I think Gay people are equal to straight people too, but if they cannot marry people of the same gender, I don't see that as any inequality. Straight people also cannot marry people of the same gender.

Gay people have married straight people of the opposite gender since marriage was invented, so I don't know where you got this idea that miscegenation had anything to do with anything. If you wanted to use that analogy, it would be a parrallel of gay people marrying straight people.

So straight and gay people have exactly the same rights. It's indisputable.

Gay couples are equal to heterosexual couples by law also, as well as de-facto heterosexual couples.

They just don't use the word marriage. Just like fathers are eqaul by law with mothers, but men cannot be called mothers.
Posted by Houellebecq, Monday, 13 February 2012 9:34:04 AM
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