As an antidote to some of the more rabid contributions above may I commend that people read Peter Jenkins' article in this morning's SMH, reprinted from the Daily Telepgraph (UK), "Iran deal would allow West to make U-turn on highway to war."

Sanity amidst the ongoing stupidity of US foreign policy, exemplified yet again today in Obama's State of the Union address.

If the Israelis launch an airstrike on Iran, then I can't criticise them for that. They know exactly what is at stake. They have been the victims of genocide before, and they will do whatever it takes to prevent that happening again. The Israeli airstrike on the Iraqi "Ossirak" nuclear facility in the early 1980's did more for world peace than in five minutes than all of the UN resolutions passed in the last 60 years.

I don't think that the Yanks should get involved in an invasion of Iran, because a war with Iran would be a very serious war. I do not think that the US electorate would support it, because it is understandable that people prefer not to contemplate whatever they dread, however necessary.

We saw exactly the same phenomona in Europe in 1936, when men like Churchill urged the Europeans to unite and destroy the Nazi regime in Germany, which was obviously rearming for war. Although a united Europe could have easily overcome Germany in 1936, it would still have been a very bloody and costly war. But nobody wanted another bad war, so the German sore was left to fester until Hitler was good and ready to strike.

It was only good luck and heroism that all of Europe was not completely conquored by the Germans. But at least when the civilised world struck back, it was united in it's conviction that the destruction of Germany justified all sacrifices, and all means necessary.

Sadly, I think that something similar will have to happen today before the civilised world realises that destroying nuclear armed religious Nazis justifies all sacrifices and means.

Thank whichever God you pray to that Hitler did not have nuclear weapons, and that people like Julianthenutter, Arjay, and James O'Neill were not around in 1939 to play devil's advocate for Hitler.

Lego,

Arjay, James O'Neill and myself with our postings have displayed a grasp of the realities. That you don't like the truths we write of is an accurate description of the display of your unsupported asertions.

We've pointed out the Israelis really haven't the means to stop Iran's move to nuclear weapons. So why attack them?

What you need to do is show us how an Israeli attack can destroy Iran's nuclear program. You haven't done that all you've done is attack us because we've stated the obvious. Which, on the evidence of your ramblings, is something you cannot process rationally.

It is also a fair display of your limited cognitive processes that you cannot discern the similarities between your and the aparthied socialist Israelis views and the views that were once adopted by the racist socialist Nazis.

The only regime in the mid east with a long history of attacking it's neighbours and of carrying out a genocide is the aparthied Israel.

You are supporting them attacking another soverign nation. Sheesh and you think me an apologist.

'It was only good luck and heroism that all of Europe was not completely conquored by the Germans. But at least when the civilised world struck back, it was united in it's conviction that the destruction of Germany justified all sacrifices, and all means necessary'

rubbish.

The yanks saved Europe. They did not nuke Germany therefore they didn't use all their 'means'.

Hi Julianthenutter (singularly appropriate name).

I was a round in 1967 when the all of the Arab states were openly bragging about how they were going to smash Israel, and wipe it right off the map. The Arab forces were overwhelming, and nobody gave Israel much hope of repelling the attack. Egypt began that attack when it blockaded the Israeli port of Eilat. A blockade is an act of war. By what application of doublethink you use to claim that the Israelis attacked the Egyptians is beyond me. I think that such cognitive dissonance can only be achieved with people who have the misfortune of inheriting intellectual abilities from the shallow end of the gene pool.

As for my views being akin to those of the Nazis, hey boy, you are the one who despises Jews, not me. Hitler would be proud of your hatred of Israel.

If a military strike on Iran will not significantly damage the Iranian nuclear bomb manufacturing industry, then it is reasonable to presume that the Israelis will not bother to do it. If they are contemplating such a strike, then they know something that you and I don’t. The German Red Army Faction fruitcakes who hijacked a Lufthansa airliner and forced the pilot to fly them to Entebbe airport in Uganda thought that it was impossible for the Israelis to get them, but the Israelis did just that, and now they are all dead.

A lot of Arabs too are dead also because they underestimated the Israelis. How many Nobel prizes for science have the Jews had? Now, how many have the Arabs had? When it comes to the people of a failed civilization pushing around a successful society populated by smart people, I know who’s side I am on.

The yanks did not drop the bomb on Germany because the war in Europe was almost over before the bombs became operational. But the US Army Air Force and the RAF killed more Germans in Dresden using conventional bombs than the yanks killed Japs in Hiroshima.

Keep it up, Julian, you are easy meat.

Lego,

you've got to stop making things up. You can't be taken too seriously.

Quote where I ever said the Israelis attacked the Egyptians.

Quote where I have ever refered to Jewish people, let alone uttered any slur that shows I despise Jewish people.

Critising the disgraceful behaviour of Israel's regime and it's supporters is not the same as hating a whole nation, fool.

You still haven't disproven the overwhelming and conventional view that the nuclear aims of the Iranians can be stopped by the Israelis.
Hoping the Israelis can stop that because they killed a few dozen terrorists at a third world airport isn't quite in the same realm as showing a rational argument Israel can overcome the entire Iranian nation and it's nuclear aims... using force.

You have never read Mein Kamf.

Good to see you agree you were wrong and that it was the Yanks who actually saved Europe.

The Dresden slaughter wasn't the worst bombing raid the German people suffered in WWII.

Why is it that you seem to revel in war and death? Have you a problem or are you just an angry impotent little man.

Yeah everyone's easy meat if you use strawman arguments. You can't lose unless you are an imbecile. I expect you'd lose an argument in such a senario.