" China who has been silent till now said an attack on Iran will not preclude China using all its force including nuclear weapons to keep Iran free."

Arjay, who said this? Please reference.

@DavidL The Iranians never said they would wipe Israel off the map. That is a tired lie that doesn't improve with constant repetition.

@Lego Israel a democracy? You have got to be joking. either that or blind to the facts.

@Plantagenet Iran was a "participant" in the 8 year war with Iraq. The reason: Iraq attacked them. The Americans incidentally were arming both sides.

Majorie Cohn is one of the clearest voices on the illegalities and stupidities of US and Israeli aggression in the Middle East. Most of the responses to her article, and I have quoted only three of the most egregious, are plainly stupid at best.

Well considering that most of the responses come from the Israel can do no wrong crowd,and David who I think is the cheif member of the Israeli propaganda dept on OLO what did you expect.
Like the bit about Israel being a democracy to when did that happen it is a Racist state

Stezza have a look at this , http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ugq-KleU8IA Major General Zhang Zhaozhong, "China will not hesitate to protect Iran even with a third world war." There was another ref to Hu Jintao on Veterans Today that I cannot find.

Also Russia has issued warnings, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuVMO1u8sE4 There is evidence that the USA has been using limited strategic nukes in Iraq and possibly Libya.Prof Chis Busby has found evidence in Fallujia of radio activity that is not just Depleted Uranium but a processing to bomb grade uranium.If the USA has them then Russia/China also has them. Where to you draw the line when size is the only limiting factor?

Greeting Mr James O'Neill.

The claim by people with your peculiar mindset that the President of Iran has not promised to wipe Israel off the map, is oftern repeated here on OLO. But it has been repeatedly quoted as a fact by the newspapers I read. Now, I know that newspapers can not be trusted to tell the truth, but then again, neither can left wingers. I personally think that the Iranians are trying to be the North Koreans of the Middle East, and given their total hatred of Israel, then the idea that the "elected" President of Iran probably did say it would be entirely within character.

On the whole, I think that newspapers have far more credibility than people like yourself. Especially since even the limp wristed Europeans are crapping themselves over Iran's behaviour, to the extent that they are even refusing to purchase Iranian oil. Oil is blood to advanced societies, so they must be getting really concerned to resort to that.

Yes, Israel is a democracy, their parliament is called the "knesset" and their Prime Minister is an elected official. The only Arab Muslim states which could be construed as "democracies" are those which recently fell through revolutions. And since the people of those new democracies seem to be electing Muslim fundamentalists as their leaders, one presumes that Arab democracies will soon come to resemble African democracies. One man, one vote, once.

I doubt if the US was "arming both sides" in the Iran/Iraq war, because the Yanks absolutely hate the Iranian regime. But if they did, so what? Letting two fruitcake regimes that were a danger to world stability kill each other off sounds like a smart move to me. Just give either side enough at the right times so that no one can win.

Thanks Arjay, although I can't find any evidence for the existence of Major General Zhang Zhaozhong, other than this youtube video and blogs that refer to it. I understand that China and Russia would not want the US invading another one of their trading partners, but I seriously doubt that they would defend iran militarily. Referring to nukes makes it even more unbelievable. That just doesn't make sense.

I usually view these matters with a non-aligned point of view. From here is is quite obvious that people who are in either camp end up completely blinkered to reality. Two sayings I enjoy are: those who have the gold make the rules and there are no rules in love and war.

Good comments plantagenet.