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Re-assessing men's magazines : Comments

By Matthew Holloway, published 23/12/2011

Could girly magazines be moving average male attitudes to females closer to that of the rapist?

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Interestingly, the most popular article in the latest edition of The Women's Weekly" was "Deborah Hutton: Why I posed naked at 50"

http://aww.ninemsn.com.au/news/inthemag/8392133/deborah-hutton-why-i-posed-naked-at-50

Another reason to shut down women's magazines.

Apart from containing the largest amount of inane, puerile, misleading, mindless, irrelevant, unreliable, gossipy and often feminist junk ever written in human history, women’s magazines also have nudity and treat women as sex objects.
Posted by vanna, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 9:08:46 AM
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Dear vanna,

How Odd that you're seeing sex in the Deborah Hutton
article. I see a woman celebrating the beauty of her
own body, comfortable with who she is (finally), having
won the battle of cancer - and simply celebrating the joy
of being alive. Hutton may have found fame with her
beauty, (she was a model) but as the article states,
"young Deborah Hutton was as insecure as any other girl.
And as she turns 50, she tells us how she finally learned
to love her body and why she agreed to pose naked for
The Weekly."

She tells us, " The reason I agreed to pose nude for The
Weekly is to celebrate that I'm 50 ... I didn't take
the challenge lightly. I really had to think through why
I would want to expose myself in such a public way. For me
it's much more than just being naked on a cover. I fear
there is too much emphasis on how thin women ought to be
and not enough on health and the acceptance of who we are,
with all our imperfections. So I sat here baring it all for
public comment. Some will be offended and I say to those
who criticise my actions. Why? Why does this make you feel
uncomfortable. It's a tasteful photograph, of someone who
is comfortable in her skin. It's a celeb ration for me of not
shying away from the fact that I'm 50, a time most women fear,
as society dictates the best years are behind them."

"So on behalf of those leaving their 40s, I say embrace a
positive future, celebrate the fact that we're still here,
that our bodies are healthy and still working, and make the
most of every precious moment."

"And if I still haven't won you over, then you've quite
possibly lost all sense of humour and, believe me, as you
get older, you'll need that more and more!
Posted by Lexi, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 10:26:15 AM
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Lexi
Who is Deborah Hutton, and what has she ever done?

I don't recall a Deborah Hutton ever doing anything of any great relevance or importance, unless someone thinks posing naked in a women's magazine is relevant or important.

The modern women might think she is relevant, but then so many modern women read women's magazine, and their minds now show it.
Posted by vanna, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 10:38:18 AM
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Those participating in this discussion are to be congratulated on their civility. So often these sorts of things get heated and tend to be a breeding ground for aggression and consequently, the very sort of gendered violence they're pretending to be concerned about. Sometimes I think academics intentionally do these studies for just that purpose - to bring about social discord and to add fuel to the fire of the now nearly defunct (thank goodness) "gender war".

On an historical note, however, LEGO doesn't seem to have a good grasp on the history of smut. Back before the 60s, there were men's adventure mags that featured scantily clad females in vulnerable poses and circumstances, and they weren't illegal. Pin-up girls were all over the place, on calendars, on mechanic's walls, engineering shops and before that, lewd female pulchritude adorned the weapons of war in the form of aircraft nose art. And even before that, there were "artistic" photographs and smutty jokes available on souvenir postcards at all sorts of holiday kiosks.

Porn goes back long before that too. Hindu temples are full of it. The Romans had a strong penchant for it, in bath houses and bedrooms. Even primitive Aboriginal and Melanesian artefacts feature strong sexual representation and icons. Porn and smut are not products of the post sixties political liberalisation. Nor is sexual violence. It is incorrect to blame modern men's media for something that's as old as recorded history.

I think Vanna has the most enlightened view of the current situation regarding gutter and slush media and in particular, women's mags, books and pop-music culture. Young women in Australia definitely appear to like playing the tart, the tramp and the whore. I travel a bit and get to see it. Unfortunately, many women are very good at it.

The article, like the study, is nothing more than antagonistic gender war propaganda. It's good to see that in this forum it isn't working.
Posted by voxUnius, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 2:15:25 PM
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Dear vanna,

Perhaps you should have actually read the issue of
The Weekly that you referred to in your earlier post.
It was an issue dedicated to the past.

December is a good time
to reflect on the past before we ring in the New Year.

Anyway, for your information, Deborah Hutton was
lucky enough to start out in Australia in our modelling
industry, she later joined Eileen Ford's agency in New
York and her face became famous gracing many magazines,
from Cosmopolitan,and The Weekly, to name just a view.
She modelled her way across many catwalks - and ended her
modelling career when her battle
with cancer began. She was always a positive role-model for
so many people - because of the way she dealt with whatever
life threw at her.

You claim that women's minds are affected by what they read.
Or words to that effect. Well the same can apply to either
gender - or any individual. However, you should of course be
aware - that people do read other things apart from magazines
(male or female mags) and their edication and influences are
derived from many sources - as I pointed out in my earlier
post on this thread.

People tend to see the world from a viewpoint of subjectivity.
And interpret things based on personal values and
experiences. As your looking at the pictures of Deborah
Hutton naked, and seeing sex, illustrates. That's possibly how
a fundamentalist preacher would tend to view any naked
body, (in terms of pornography). Both of you are inclined
to perceive facts selectively and to interpret them
accordingly.

Of course if the world consisted simply of some self-evident
reality that everyone perceived in exactly the same way,
there might be no disagreement among observers. But the
truth of the matter is that what we see in the world is not
determined by what exists "out there." It is shaped by
what our past experience has prepared us to see and by what
we consciously or unconsciously want to see.
Posted by Lexi, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 2:16:42 PM
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Lexi,
Men developed writing, and then they developed paper, and then they developed the printing press, and then they developed magazines.

And then women got hold of it, and they developed the greatest amount of brain-dead drivel ever accumulated, which are women’s magazines. Complete with articles such as “Top 10 Kate Middleton fashion moments” and “Suri Cruise Has Meltdown and Make Up Dinner”

Now, such magazines are ever present in most houses wherever a woman is present, and they have become the only reading material available in doctor’s and dentist’s waiting rooms.

Ban porno magazines. Who cares, as very few men buy them anyway.

But for the sake of humanity and any form of intelligence, women’s magazines MUST be banned.
Posted by vanna, Tuesday, 27 December 2011 5:01:57 PM
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