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Re-assessing men's magazines : Comments

By Matthew Holloway, published 23/12/2011

Could girly magazines be moving average male attitudes to females closer to that of the rapist?

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This is just the usual anti male stuff we have come to expect from second rate academics.

It would be nice to read about the impact of love stories and romances have on young woman and how they affect women's expectations in relationships. A good title for a study might be: "Do Women's magazines and the popular media lead women to believe that they are princesses" or "Can women ever be pleased?"

Another title for a study mighy be: "Attracting lots of male attention by wearing sexual clothing: why women do it?"

Of course, I won't hold my breath for 'studies' on women, just more agitating to further criminalise/pathologise male behavour. It's really just about power - power and control over men.
Posted by dane, Sunday, 25 December 2011 12:49:28 AM
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Answering Michael Holloway’s pertinent question, yes, we are doing young males a great disservice by allowing ANY form of media to portray females in terms which a convicted rapist would approve.

Young men really like looking at pictures of naked, or near naked, young females, and nobody is ever going to stop that. The problem is, that the way that these images are presented can have a deep psychological impact on the values and attitudes of the viewer, if they are presented in such a way that they normalize rape, sexual assault, bondage, and other forms of sex which most people would find objectionable.

This was discovered in the early sixties when “men’s magazines” as we know them today either did not exist, or were illegal. Since images of female nudity were at that time proscribed by law, “men’s magazines” of the period consisted of “detective magazines”. The front covers of these magazines usually depicted females in bondage situations, cringingand horror struck, from the actions of a menacing male. Moral campaigners of the time considered such images to be puerile but harmless.

They weren’t.

Police forensic psychologists became interested in these bondage normalizing magazines when they realized that they were always among the possessions of the worst kinds of serial sex offenders. Interviews conducted with these men convinced the psychologists that these types of pornography was extremely important to them. Worse, the police psychologists were able to provide many links between the often bizarre bondage stories in these magazines, and of actual acts committed upon abducted females by these sex offenders.

With the legalization of pornography in the late sixties, most of the pornographic publishers showed admiral social responsibility by never again displaying females in bondage situations, or linking violence with erotic images, because the industry accepted that it was just too dangerous. Sexual images in these magazines was always depicted as consensual and fun. Responding to complaints by women’s groups, the leading publishers also removed any material (including cartoons) which suggested that young children were interested in sex.
Posted by LEGO, Sunday, 25 December 2011 8:01:19 AM
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But today, both print and electronic media are openly flouting this responsibility in the search for more profits. Movies produced by Miramax, Tristar, Columbia, Fox, and MGM are now producing movies which are far more explicit, violent and realistic than anything which the old “detective magazines” ever dreamed up. ‘Action” movies (read “violent movies”) suggest to their primarily young male audiences that violence, sadism, drug abuse, and perverted sexual behaviour is fun.

The pop music industry is leading the race to the bottom with “artists” now producing “songs” extolling the virtues of violence towards women, with Michael Mathers relesing a song recounting the pleasures of raping his mother. Not only does today’s pop music feature music with explicit sexual content which is freely available to every child with a radio, these songs sport titles such as “Smack My Bitch Up” and “Rape Me.” Not surprisingly, it is the singers and writers of such songs who seem to get all of the laurels at the major pop industry awards.
That the print media has reverted to depicting women in ways that a convicted rapist would approve, is not surprising, given the promotion of anti social behaviour now being normalized by our media. And anyone who thinks that the images presented by the media have no link to behaviours and attitudes of people in real life, should stop and listen very hard. You will hear the advertising executives of Saatchi & Saatchi and Mojo, laughing their heads off.

There is an element of young people who have been conditioned to believe that any form of censorship is old fashioned, and the ideal of conservative, unintelligent, religious and stupid people. They have also ben conditioned to think that opposing censorship is the ideal of creative, intelligent, social progressives, like themselves. They have accepted that a media which advocates drug abuse, violence, the denigration of women, and suicide is completely harmless.

It just goes to show that the media savvy sevants of Mammon are a lot smarter than the educated, “progressive” disciples of socialist Idealism.
Posted by LEGO, Sunday, 25 December 2011 8:02:43 AM
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Lego,
Of course “men’s magazines” should be banned. Then we should all be reading women’s magazines.

We can read articles such as the following: -

"Jennifer Aniston Advised To Make Mad Dash For Brad Pitt’s Sperm

Brave ‘Hebephile’ Stands Up For Right To F..k Teen Girls

Don’t Use Elaborate Wrapping On A Sh..ty Gift, You Guys

The Story Of My Man-Boobs

Demi Lovato Rips Disney Channel A New A..hole For Making Jokes About Eating Disorders

Our Favorite Mortician Takes Us On A Hollywood Death Tour"

http://jezebel.com/

And all this in a magazine the author refers to, and that magazine seems to be targeted at educated young women, or women attending universities.

It is contemporary media, but unfortunately totally inane, and often profane, and contains nothing of any real usefulness or meaning.

One could worry about the writers of such media, but most importantly, one should worry about the women readers, and whether they become inane, profane, useless and meaningless, or already are.

I guess men will have to be given the blame for that as well.
Posted by vanna, Sunday, 25 December 2011 9:01:27 AM
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Hi Vanna, my favourite was from Cleo entitled "How to Beat Your Husband."

You must have read my article in haste, I did not advocate the banning of men's magazines, I simply stated that the presentation of the images is critical to understanding the psychological impact which the images will have. Yesterday's porn industry understood that, and never mixed erotic images with violent ones, especially those normalising bondage, rape, sadism, bestiality, or the idea that children like sex.

But today's media does not conforms to these standards, and we as a society are reaping the wind with rising rates of adolescent and teenage pregnancy, as well as rising rates of drug abuse and violence, especially against women.

People are not born with moral values. Pro social values are inculcated into them by their peers, their parents, teachers, religious leaders, community leaders, and the role models provided by society. Increasingly, what constitutes accepytable behaviour is not coming from parents or the community. It is the media which is the primary creator and transmitter of popular culture today.

And the role models provided industries such as the pop music industry and the visual media, is that you men are violent men, who should look up to gangsters, and who should call women "hoes" and "bitches."

Female role models are usually depicted wearing as little as possible, or even naked with their legs so wide apart that you can see their tonsils. Have a look at what the little girls are wearing today. I agree with President Bush's wife who was once quated as saying that the best thing her husband administration could do was "shoot Britney Spears."
Posted by LEGO, Sunday, 25 December 2011 2:57:25 PM
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Lego,

I agree.

Ban pornography.

And ban women’s media as well, before too many women actually become what they read.

Such as articles : “Sofia Vergara pretends to be her son's sister”

Work that out.

Or perhaps “Angelina Jolie weighs the same as a seven-year-old'

Women are becoming addicted to this inane and brainless stuff, and the more addicted they become, the more useless they become to anyone.
Posted by vanna, Sunday, 25 December 2011 3:57:40 PM
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