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Re-assessing men's magazines : Comments

By Matthew Holloway, published 23/12/2011

Could girly magazines be moving average male attitudes to females closer to that of the rapist?

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I think Vanna's point is made, sour grapes notwithstanding.
Posted by Antiseptic, Monday, 2 January 2012 5:16:41 PM
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Lexi,
If you want social science studies on gender, then try this.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/news/mind_brain/gender_difference/

It has everything, from

“Men More Likely to Stick With Girlfriends Who Sleep With Other Women Than Other Men”

to “Study Debunks Stereotype That Men Think About Sex All Day Long”

to “Gender Bias of Prospective Parents Revealed”

You can find anything you want in there, and just the type of material as feedstock for the multibillion dollar women’s gossip industry.

Unfortunately, nearly all the so-called studies are carried out on small groups of students in US colleges, and then the researcher tries to say it is representative of every man and woman in the world.

I wonder why feminists don’t complain about this.

So often, feminists use exactly the same research methods themselves.
Posted by vanna, Monday, 2 January 2012 5:40:29 PM
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Antiseptic, what a joy to see you back in action on this forum.
I thought you had a dummy spit and gave it all up some time ago?

As to your' comment on my comment above, I didn't suggest a feminist was an antonym to misogynist at all.
I just suggested I would rather be called a feminist than a misogynist. Read it again and see this is true.

Lexi, you have fought a valiant fight against an impossible subject :)
See you on another thread...
Posted by Suseonline, Monday, 2 January 2012 7:38:47 PM
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Suxanonline had to say the word misogynist, not once, but twice.

Could earn extra points for that.

The whole world is so overwhelming and misogynist.

I think I’ll have to take some medication and lie down with Jezebel magazine, and read articles such as “Fashion Industry Salivates Over Creepy Photos Of 10-Year-Old French Girl”

or “Kids Receiving Intentionally Crappy Christmas Presents Is The Funniest Thing You'll See Today

or “Ryan Gosling Spends New Year's Eve With Eva Mendes, Ruins Our Hopes Of Marrying Him In 2012”

It’s all true and so comforting.
Posted by vanna, Monday, 2 January 2012 8:33:13 PM
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Actually Suseie, I said there was nobody here worth talking to. Hearing the crows chorus cackling empty triumph while pecking at Vanna, I decided to make an exception.

And the crows are all flying away in a flap.

See you on another thread...
Posted by Antiseptic, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 6:36:31 AM
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Dear vanna,

My apologies for not responding to you earlier
but I had used up all my post limit and had to wait.
Glad to see that you do find some comfort in
women's magazines after all. As the link I provided
earlier indicated - women do work for men's magazines
as do men for women's magazines so discussions about
men's and women's magazines should not be an
indictment on either men or women.

The link I cited pointed out that
conversations about men's magazines (including
pornography) and women's magazines should be
conversations about media - not an indictment on
men or women. Whether the media contributes to
rape (or gossip et cetera) is a conversation worth having.
Yet assumptions about who's to blame, finger-pointing,
and gender indicments, stop such conversations in
their tracks.

The point being made should be that yes the media does
shape people's view on gender, sex, and other issues - but
it's people, men and women who create the media. Focusing
on only one group does not present the full picture.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion.
As am I, to point out the flaws in your reasoning.

Dear Antiseptic,

Suse is right in pointing out the fact that you did more
than leave because you found no one to talk to. You made
it quite clear that you were going to ask Graham to remove
you from the forum. That was a reaction that concerned
my and Pelican, and others. We tried to persuade you to
re-consider. Although possibly you did not read the rest
of that particular thread.

As for your analogy of "crows," that would indicate a case
of - to quote your own words - "sour grapes."
You must try to resist the compulsion to resort to these
tactics. Perhaps the reason you can't find anyone to talk
to is because you have to learn to listen to more than
just the sound of your own voice.
Posted by Lexi, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 10:14:24 AM
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