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By Peter Pyke, published 25/11/2011Swearing about domestic violence.
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antiseptic, you seem to have a terrible experience but that doesn't change the wider facts. I have no doubt that the author would not support violence against a person of any gender or age. Sadly some men who speak very loudly choose to try to undermine efforts to stop violence against women and use this campaign to make men the victims. Men are victims of violence but most violence against men is happening in the streets and is inflicted by other men and I don't hear men talking about that. Anyone who finds violence abhorent should be supporting any campaign to stamp out violence, be it against women, men or children. I do feel sorry for you that you have had such a terrible time but all the men standing up today to call for an end to violence against women are not colluding in some sort of conspiracy against their own sex. Lobby for change but don't support a shameful part of australian culture.
Posted by perigren, Friday, 25 November 2011 10:25:10 AM
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"but all the men standing up today to call for an end to violence against women are not colluding in some sort of conspiracy against their own sex"
That's a matter of opinion. Most may not know that they are doing so but it does not alter the dynamics of the way that the genderised portrayal of violence is used and abused by gender warriors. ChazP summed the approach taken by those pushing the genderised DV line pretty well at one point "The selective use/misuse of information is part and parcel of any debate." http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=12255#212833 That was in response to attempts to use a claim about children witnessing violence against their mother and a subsequent suggestion that it would "be rather like searching for squid on Uluhru" to find the relevant figures on children witnessing violence against their fathers (the figure was in the same paragraph of the original report as the figure quoted by ChazP in the first place. There is a very clear determination by some to misrepresent the issue to give women greater power in family law situations and overall as part of a militant feminist agenda. The White Ribbon mob reversed the outcomes of one study regarding acceptance of violence in one recent publicity splurge and when caught out on it the retraction was very muted. There is a deliberate attempt from some quarters to claim violence is primarily a gender issue rather than an issue tied far more strongly to other indicators. Perpetuating those lies leaves people exposed to violence that could be avoided. R0bert Posted by R0bert, Friday, 25 November 2011 11:42:07 AM
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Peter,
Seems like there is hope yet ! Many Thanks for sharing this story. Arthur Bell ( aka bully ) Posted by bully, Friday, 25 November 2011 11:51:27 AM
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militant feminist, Tell me where they are and i will give em a wide birth. I have never seen one or heard of any. Family violence is for real and increasing, road rage in the house. The police say 99 % of family violence comes from men. That 1% of men that get abused need, how to be a man counseling.
Posted by 579, Friday, 25 November 2011 12:32:17 PM
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A man who hits a woman is no man at all...
Posted by rational-debate, Friday, 25 November 2011 1:23:34 PM
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These articles never talk about women's responsibilites. My brother's neighbour put his hand through a wall when arguing with his wife. Would that be an indication to any reasonable minded person that he was at his wits end and that it would be a good idea to just stop before things got worse? Or are women not responsible for their actions?
Would anyone feel sorry for me if I, as another man, kept pushing a man who was obviously at his limit and then got beat up? I'm not excusing men who hit women but I'm also not excusing women. For those of us who live in the real world we know women are not perfect either: women cheat, lie, drink, take drugs, spend money and gamble just like men. There are also plenty of women who do violence well too (especially Aboriginal women). I have even heard of women cheating on their partners!! (I know, it seems hard to believe but it is true) That's why these constant stories about DV get tiresome - they always take women to be these angelic little creatures who never put a foot wrong while big bad men beat them up. In the story, the cowering in the corner with the smoking cop just seems a bit over dramatic for me too. I'm not doubting women get hit but it seems like years of DV industry advertising (brainwashing) might have influenced the authors reconstruction of events all those years ago. The DV instustry has just become another way for women to exercie power and control over men. Posted by dane, Friday, 25 November 2011 4:47:59 PM
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